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- Subject: BIG-LAN Digest, Volume 4, Number 85, Tuesday, December 22, 1992
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- BIG-LAN DIGEST Tuesday, 22 December 1992 Volume 4 : Issue 85
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- Today's Topics:
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- RE: Why just 30 thinnet nodes
- Ten Outlying Alaskan Schools Tie VINES WAN Over Satellite
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- Moderated by John Wobus, Syracuse University
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:46:32 -0600 (CST)
- From: sjulstad@stolaf.edu (Michael Sjulstad)
- Subject: RE: Why just 30 thinnet nodes
-
- >Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:12:58 KST
- >From: ksn@giconet.gsic.co.kr
- >Subject: Why just 30 thinnet nodes?
- >
- >Hi!
- >
- >Does anyone know the reason that the maximum attachment is 30 for thin
- >Ethernet/IEEE802.3?
- >
- >Please explain the reason.
- >
- >Soo N. Kim
- >Goldstar Information and Communications
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- I'm no expert, but I've done some work in this area.
-
- There may be a variety of reasons, but one that I perceive as
- understandable is the amount of power transmitted by the thin-net
- transmitter, along with load that the line, terminations, receivers,
- etc.. represent to this transmitter. Further, the tolerences for
- collision detection are extremely tight, and it is (effectively) a dc
- voltage on the transmission line. Anything outside of threshold
- voltage is considered a collision. One can probably drive many more
- than the maximum published value of 30 if one is careful with length,
- quality of coax, terminations, connectors, etc... but IMHO, breaking
- the rules generally isn't worth the headaches of strange things
- happening later.
-
- Anyone else know more?
-
- Michael Sjulstad
- sjulstad@stolaf.edu
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:31:33 GMT
- From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
- Subject: Ten Outlying Alaskan Schools Tie VINES WAN Over Satellite
-
- A key element of the Alaskan Distance Education Delivery system is
- a Banyan VINES wide area network (WAN). Using a channel on the school's
- designated bandwidth, the 10 schools are tied together over the Wang-
- installed Banyan WAN using Wang PCs and integrated with three Wang
- VS minicomputers in Barrow. Two independent uses exist on the WAN:
- one for administration and the other for educational purposes. The
- NSBSD owns the telecommunications equipment that interfaces with the
- satellite system.
-
- "Initially, our major problem was communications between our outlying
- school sites and communication with teachers, principals, and maintenance
- people," said Martin Cary, NSBSD coordinator for information and technology.
- "We had been doing a dial-up log on to the VS because we didn't have the
- kinds of communication infrastructure that was available in other parts
- of the country."
-
- School officials decided to install a WAN to interconnect everyone in the
- district. Cary said the WAN enables the district to accomplish three
- goals: to communicate via electronic mail, to give access to applications
- on the VS, and to offer data processing services district wide.
-
- "We had decided in advance that we wanted to use Banyan VINES because of its
- strong wide area networking capabilities," explained Cary. Wang won the
- contract to provide the Banyan WAN, PCs, servers, and installation of
- hardware and software. Wand did much of the initial design in conjunction
- with the district. In Barrow, the five servers are connected via fiber
- optics, while the WAN interfaces with the VSs through LightSpeed Gateway
- software.
-
- The installation of the WAN presented a problem for Dave Thompson, Wang's
- principal systems consultant, and his team consisting of Ted Israelson
- and Michael Knobloch. Dave has worked with the NSBSD since 1985 when the
- district replaced its IBM System/34 with Wang VSs, which offered a more
- complete office automation package.
-
- "Most of the villages could only be reached by a small single-engine
- airplane, which we chartered from Barrow," Dave said. "We had to make
- sure that we staged all the equipment properly and had everything with
- us when we got ready to go. We couldn't go back to the office if we
- forgot something."
-
- The Wang team started the installation in the summer, when there is
- 24 hours of daylight. "You tend to work while the sun shines, so we
- were able to put in 14-16 hours a day without even thinking about it,"
- Dave explained. They turned the WAN over to the school district two
- months later.
-
- An example of how the administrative network is used might be that a
- principal in the village of Kaktovik, located on the Canadian border
- 300 air miles (483 km) away, would type in the attendance for the day
- on her PC and send the file to a PACE RDBMS database on the VS. The
- student network is used by pupils to pass files among themselves and
- by special resource teachers in the Distance Education studio to send
- out tests or receive homework from individual students.
-
- Administrative staff in the central offices also use the VS for
- accounting, payroll, student records management, WP Plus, and Wang
- OFFICE Email. The installation of the WAN made the applications on the
- VS available to everyone in the district.
-
- Even though its primary task has been completed, Wang continues to work
- closely with the NSBSD. "Our network is growing at such a speed that
- internally we just don't have the personnel to take care of everything
- we want done in the timeframe available," Cary said. "Consequently, we
- bring in Wang specialists to take care of specific projects. And that's
- worked out very well."
-
- Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
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