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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:30:43 CST
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- From: Jim Sinclair <GOLEM@UKANVM.BITNET>
- Subject: Re: Information about abuse
- In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:53:42 EST from <LISAS@PUCC>
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- On Mon, 28 Dec 1992 09:53:42 EST Lisa S Lewis said:
- >In that section, Donna credits her success in reaching "THE world" with her
- >ability to create 'characters'. However, she maintains that it was her
- >mother's abusive behavior that led to the creation of the characters to begin
- >with.
- >
- >She even goes so far as to say "thank God I had a bad mother...."
- >
- >When I read this, I admit to feeling an odd pang...should I now feel guilty
- >for being a "good" mother, and getting every kind of intervention I can for
- >my son?
-
- No, I don't think you need to feel guilty about getting intervention per
- se. What you *should* be looking at is the appropriateness of the
- interventions you're getting. The impression I've gotten from reading
- Donna's book and from speaking to her (and comparing a lot of notes about
- abusive parents) is that Donna is grateful to have had a "bad" mother
- because she believes that many of the interventions a "good" mother would
- have gotten for her would have made things worse. Donna and I are both
- certain that many of the things promoted by Temple Grandin, for example,
- would have been disastrous for us. I think a better way to paraphrase
- what Donna is saying is that it was better for her to have a *neglectful*
- mother who didn't provide much intervention at all and let Donna get along
- as best she could on her own (what kind of parent would let even a non-
- disabled child sleep on the streets at the age of eight?!) than if she had
- had a mother who well-meaningly provided inappropriate interventions that
- would have interfered with Donna's ability to develop the survival skills
- she found for herself. Probably the best message for parents to glean
- from this is to make sure the interventions they try aren't making things
- worse. Consider whether the proposed intervention tries to address
- something that's actually a problem for your child, and consider whether
- the intervention parallels something your child has already experienced,
- and how the child responded to it. And if, after a reasonable trial
- period (the definition of "reasonable" being a factor of any number of
- things, including the severity of any negative reactions), the intervention
- seems to be upsetting to the child, stop it. There are some interventions
- that I think are inherently abusive (holding therapy, for instance), but
- most of the treatments advocated by reputable and responsible professionals
- are beneficial--for *some* autistic kids. And probably most of them could
- also be disastrous--for *some* autistic kids. The difference between a
- "good" parent and a "worse than bad" parent would be that a "good" (let's
- use a less judgmental term like "beneficial" or "helpful" or "growth-
- facilitating") parent is careful to select interventions that are good
- for her or his child, while a "worse than bad" parent would indiscriminately
- subject the child to anything that's touted as being good for autistic kids,
- without regard for whether it's good for *this* particular autistic child,
- with consequnces that may end up being worse than if the parent had done
- nothing at all. (That's just my personal view, of course; I can't speak
- for Donna.)
-
- >Serge is terribly concerned (sorry for speaking for you, but you're not in
- >today!) that misguided people could read into this the benefits of abusive
- >behavior towards autistic people. What a tragedy that would be.
-
- It's not just a hypothetical tragedy; it is and has been a very real part
- of the history of autism. Things have been done to autistic people in the
- name of "therapy" that would be called "torture" if they were done to
- criminals or prisoners of war. I think you'd have to go back to the
- Spanish Inquisition to find a more horrific collection of practices
- intended to "save" people. Look at how many parents fought to keep their
- autistic children in Matt Israel's facility!
-
- >Any comments anyone? Was anyone else struck by these remarks? Serge has said
- >that he plans to write to Donna Williams about this.
-
- I've talked to her about it a couple of times. Apparently she's even used
- me as another example in some of her interviews, telling people that
- autistics who grew up in abusive homes have been forced to learn skills
- that autistics from non-abusive families often don't learn (because they
- don't need them to survive), and that's why we can do so much more than
- "typical" autistic people are expected to be capable of. I pointed out
- the obvious fact that if an autistic child in an abusive home is *not*
- able to learn those survival skills, the child simply doesn't survive
- (either dies or remains severely incapacitated and lives down to the low
- expectations). In fact, I've had similar conversations with abuse
- survivors who are not autistic: If you experience severe abuse and
- survive, you end up having some survival skills that you might not have
- had if you hadn't been abused. Of course the built-in selection factor
- is that if you hadn't already had the ability to learn those skills,
- you wouldn't have survived the experience. I think the quality that
- separates survivors from non-survivors is the ability to find, or if
- necessary create, the things they need to survive if the environment
- doesn't provide for those needs. Abusing children is certainly one way
- to bring out that quality in kids who have it (and to weed out kids who
- don't). But there have to be better ways.
-
- JS
-