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- From: gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener)
- Subject: Re: English N. Sg. w/Pl. Agreement
- Message-ID: <1993Jan2.012826.27985@news.columbia.edu>
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- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:28:26 GMT
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- In article <C04qL0.GvF@world.std.com> jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman) writes:
- >On both sides of the
- >Atlantic we say "the United States is",
-
- Well, not always. I remember seeing the musical "Chess" in the West End
- some years back and I was quite struck by the following song lyric:
-
- We wish, no, must make our disgust
- For this abuse perfectly clear.
- We're here for chess. Are the U.S.?
- If so, why foul the atmosphere.
-
- I was quite taken aback by the "are the US?" business. "Is the US" would have
- worked just fine w/o ruining the meter of the song.
-
- >Surely, even in this country, one may say "the jury are taking
- >their seats".
-
- Actually, when I was in school, I remember being taught that "the jury is
- in agreement," but "the jury are in disagreement," inasmuch as they function
- as a unit when they agree. Of course, I don't think I've ever used "the
- jury are" in my life, but hey, who knows? Maybe one day...
-
- >The choice can be pretty skittish. Thousands of business letters must
- >be written every day that begin something like this: "I have gotten
- >in touch with the --- Company, a firm that we have dealt with before
- >and that has an excellent reputation. They tell me that...". As soon
- >as the company opens its collective mouth, it becomes a bunch of human
- >beings.
-
- Agreed, though "The government are...." still sounds funny to these
- American ears.
-
-
- --
- Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ. "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings
- gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu to be seriously considered as a means of
- N2GPZ in ham radio circles communication. The device is inherently of
- 72355,1226 on CI$ no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
-