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- From: rck@med.unc.edu (Ronald C. Knight)
- Subject: Latin America
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.175208.12658@samba.oit.unc.edu>
- Originator: rck@maiden
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- Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:52:08 GMT
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- I was surprised today to read in a magazine a reference to
- Grenada (the island nation in the Caribbean, not the city
- in Spain) as a "Latin American" country. I served as a
- Peace Corps volunteer in Grenada for five years, and am on
- pretty solid ground in asserting that the Grenadian people
- do not regard themselves as Latin Americans. Grenada is
- an English-speaking nation, and a former British colony.
-
- I have heard people from Belize and Guyana (former British
- colonies and English-speaking countries in Central and South
- America, respectively), and people from Suriname (former
- Dutch colony in South America) protest the appellation
- "Latin American", although it's more understandable that
- this term might naturally be used by those who think that
- all of the mainland countries south of the U.S. speak either
- Spanish or Portuguese. But I have never heard of any countries
- in the English- or Dutch-speaking Caribbean islands referred
- to as Latin American before this.
-
- I checked two dictionaries and found three definitions of
- "Latin America", in order of increasing inclusion:
-
- (1) "Spanish America & Brazil"
-
- (2) Those countries of the Americas and the Caribbean where
- a language descended from Latin is spoken, including
- Spanish, Portuguese, & French.
-
- (3) "All of the Americas south of the U.S."
-
- Definition (1) corresponds to my own understanding of the
- term, while definition (3) corroborates the usage I read
- that started this whole train of thought in the first place.
- However, I don't even feel comfortable with definition (2),
- which includes Haiti and the former French Guiana (not to
- mention Saint Pierre and Miquelon and possibly in the future
- Québec). So from the position that dictionaries should be
- prescriptive, I consider definition (3) definitely wrong and
- definition (2) suspect.
-
- But from the position that dictionaries should be descriptive
- of actual use by native speakers, I wonder how many readers
- of this newsboard actually use the term "Latin America" in
- either senses (2) or (3) above, or hear other educated speakers
- do so. ("Educated" of course excludes those who think people
- speak Latin in Latin America.) I would be especially interested
- in responses from countries that fit all or some of the three
- definitions above.
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