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- From: charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Charles Geyer)
- Subject: Re: Who are `we'? (was: Comments in source code)
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- References: <1992Dec29.060209.17732@g2syd.genasys.com.au> <1hq81fINNpcc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:59:47 GMT
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- In article <1hq81fINNpcc@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>
- brock@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Bradley W. Brock) writes:
-
- > ["We"] is very common in mathematical writing. I use `we' to refer to the
- > reader and me. Paul R. Halmos discusses this in his book on mathematical
- > exposition. (I don't recall the exact title, but I think he was one of
- > four co-authors.)
-
- Norman E. Steenrod, Paul R. Halmos, Menahem M. Schiffer, Jean A. Dieudonne.
- How to Write Mathematics.
- Providence, RI: American Mathematical Society, 1973.
-
- This is an essential usage guide for writers of mathematics. It should go
- in the FAQ with the other usage guides. Where is the FAQ anyway? How long
- have we been hearing about it?
-
- Halmos says "The editorial we is not all bad", faint praise from an author
- who knows that this is equivalent to "there is at least one non-bad use of
- the editorial we". Halmos goes on to explain how to avoid it most of the
- time. Just use simple declarative or imperative sentences. Replace "Thus
- we have established property (2)" with "This establishes ..."
-
- Almost all instances of the editorial we can be deleted in this way and the
- writing improved thereby.
-
- Halmos does say that *if* you use it, *always* use it "to refer to the reader
- and me" as you say. The forbidden (though commonplace) usage being something
- like "in Jones (1984) we showed ..." So you're right about that.
-
- On the subject of references for mathematics writing, there is also
-
- Ellen Swanson.
- Mathematics into Type: Copyediting and Proofreading of Mathematics
- for Editorial Assistants and Authors.
- Providence, RI: American Mathematical Society, 1971.
-
- though these days I hardly refer to it, using the TeXbook as my principal
- guide.
-
- --
- Charles Geyer
- School of Statistics
- University of Minnesota
- charlie@umnstat.stat.umn.edu
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