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- From: entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one)
- Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices and Secular Reasoning
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- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:49:00 GMT
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- In article <C0Ax5F.9K6@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (kellmeyer steven l) writes:
- >howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
- >
- >>Because not everyone gives a damn about religion. The majority of the
- >>world population isn't Christian. (Although Catholicism is the
- >>largest single religion). Besides, 'religious reasoning' sounds like
- >>an oxymoron.
- >
- >Not everyone gives a damn about secularism either, but it appears to
- >be forced on the great majority of the population whether they will it
- >or no. Furthermore, anyone who has spent any amount of time studying
- >the history of science would find your last statement to be absolutely
- >absurd. The entire concept of a university was founded around advancing
- >theological study. Indeed, the term "professor" began as a reference to
- >one who was a "professor of the faith" and who studied it regularly.
-
- Learning technics are learning technics even if used to learn falsehoods.
-
- >Historians agree that western science was defined and structured by
- >Christian concepts, beliefs, and attitudes. Without Christianity, western
- >science, as such, would simply not exist.
-
- No it would have advanced for 2000 years instead of stagnating under the
- weight of the church. The church has a history of fighting scientific
- discovery, all the way from Galileo to the present.
-
- >It is only in the last
- >100 years that science has developed this peculiar aversion to religion.
-
- To bad it took so long :)
-
- >Certainly, one can point to instances in which religious authority
- >fought certain concepts and ideas that later turned out to be correct.
- >However, they performed no better or worse than did (or does) the established
- >scientific community today in terms of accepting radically new, correct,
- >ideas.
-
- Scientists can be closed minded at times, but they generally don't torture
- and condemn you to hell when your expermental results disagree with there
- theories..
-
- >To say that religous reasoning is an oxymoron, or that secular
- >reasoning is somehow superior, is to profess an ignorance so profound that
- >it boggles the mind.
-
- So what is religious reasoning?
- Basically it is squabling over the meanings of passages in a 2000 year old
- book.
-
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