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- Subject: Secular & Religious Babble (Re: Lifestyle Choices and Secular Reasoning)
- Date: 3 Jan 1993 12:08 CST
- Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
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- In article <C095nK.82y@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (kellmeyer steven l) writes...
- |lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
- |
- |>I'm sitting 10 feet from a machine that can produce 3d images of your
- |>internal organs, it was designed by secular reasoning.
- |
- |And it was designed in a country founded upon a belief in God. The
- |country founded upon atheism and a belief in man no longer exists.
-
- More like, it was designed in a country founded on a belief
- in freedom and equality, endowed by a god. Of course, this believe
- is not exactly supported by God's Word. God, after all, didn't think
- much of the freedom of those who didn't kiss His Ass or the person
- riding on it.
-
-
- |Sorry, that isn't what she said. She said that no individual should be
- |considered incompetent until proven otherwise. Didn't say a word about
- |parents being there to provide for and protect children. In fact, she
- |believes that at least one of those parents is a slave due to the fact
- |that marriage is an institution comparable to slavery, according to
- |Ms. Clinton.
-
- Did she make such a sweeping, general statement as that? That's
- terrible. Do you have documentation of this? I'd like to read it.
-
-
- |Again, sorry, but that fits your mentor's preconceptions about slavery
- |a lot better than it does any religion's conceptions about the purpose
- |of marriage and family. There exists no religion of which I am aware
- |which holds that children are property and/or that a parent's
- |decision to abandon said children is acceptable.
-
- Hmmm. The Bible says that if a couple has an unruly son
- who just won't settle down, the family can send him to the community
- to be stoned to death. If that's not abandonment, I don't know what
- it. Oh, now I know you'll probably say that the kid also "abandoned"
- the parents. Possibly, but that doesn't negate the parents' abandoning
- the child.
-
-
- |>Why can anyone religiously object to sex between a 10 and 30 year old
- |>who are married and have sex only in the correct positions? After all
- |>the bible doesn't mention intergenerational sex.
- |
- |Are they married?
-
- Speaking in a religious tone, if two people, say age 10 and 30
- got married in a religious service, then could there be a religious
- argument against them?
-
-
- |All the religions of which I am aware require sex to
- |take place within marriage.
-
- I don't know of any religions that require sex to take place
- withing a marriage. There are some married couples who don't have sex,
- you know.
-
-
-
- |I didn't know 10-year olds were considered to be of marriageable age.
-
- Possibly not, at least not now. Of course, the Virgin Mary is
- estimated to have been around 13 or 14. That was then, though. Before
- the institution of the marriage ceremony, sex was often considered a
- final consumation of the nuptial bonds.
-
-
-
- |>If two related people want to have sex and not produce kids thats fine
- |>with me.
- |
- |Another one joins in.
-
- What?
-
-
- |has NONE of her DNA. DNA has nix, zero, nada, zilch, empty set, goose egg
- |to do with parenthood, according to secular reasoning.
-
- Except in a paternity suit.
-
-
- |>>What about infibulation, the practice of mutilating female genitalia
- |>>that is common in Africa? Secularly speaking, we have no right to
- |>>condemn another culture's practices.
- |
- |>Who said that?
- |
- |Secular logic.
-
- Secular logic is as diverse as religious reasoning. Secularly
- speaking, we can condemn anything we please.
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