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- From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
- Subject: Re: Discrimination
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- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 17:29:33 GMT
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- jnomina@andy.bgsu.edu (A.P.K.) writes:
- >jpsb@NeoSoft.com (Jim Shirreffs) writes:
- >> Get your hair cut, get damn job, and don't brother us
- >> until you can make these tuff decisions for yourself.
-
- > Actually, this isn't a tough decision, excepting as it
- >conflicts legally and ethically with all other forms of
- >discrimination. Why should males be forced to conform to
- >certain standards which no one anywhere else is forced to
- >conform to such standards. It'd look rather funny if all women
- >were suddenly forced to get their hair hair cut short, not
- >allowed to wear makeup, forced to only where suits and
- >ties, no jewelry allowed except weeidng bands, etc...
-
- I'm afraid that I find your moral dilema less convincing when you try
- to justify it on those grounds. Males are *not* the only ones who are
- 'forced' to conform to standards. Certainly the standards are different
- for different groups and under different circumstances, but that *can't*
- be what's bugging you unless you're one of those people who tries to use
- a screwdriver to hammer in nails.
-
- > Personally, I'm flexible on the issue. I had to be if
- >I was in the military for eight years with short hair, I'll
- >live with it again if it's that necessary. But when everyone
- >around me tells me to get a haircut for a job interview with
- >no logical basis behind their statements whatsoever, other
- >that to conform to some social standard or possibly be
- >discriminated against during job selection, I can't justify
- >that as a direct reason for doing it.
-
- If you don't consider the possibility of not getting a job because of
- having long hair a logical reason for cutting your hair then I'm not sure
- what to tell you. There really isn't much rhyme or reason to it besides
- that, and that rule is *not* cast in stone. I've known plenty of long-
- haired software jugglers, but in practically every case those guys had
- effectively 'earned' the privelage of having long hair by having superlative
- skills which tipped any balance in their favor. If you feel that your skills
- are good enough to tip the balance for you then by all means keep your long
- hair. In some ways it might be a psychological advantage in that it sort
- of projects the image that *you* think your skills are good enough that
- your hair doesn't matter. Maybe that's enough.
-
- --
- Nathan Engle Software Juggler
- Psychology Department Indiana University
- nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu nengle@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
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