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- From: rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Johnston)
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- Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices and Secular Reasoning
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.033411.29928@news.columbia.edu>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 03:34:11 GMT
- References: <1992Dec30.185545.26789@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> <C07oBz.F74@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan2.235727.5838@netcom.com>
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- In article <1993Jan2.235727.5838@netcom.com> howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey) writes:
- >In article <C07oBz.F74@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (kellmeyer steven l) writes:
- >>ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
- >>
- >>>In article <1992Dec30.162502.6756@asl.dl.nec.com> dillhoff@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Doug Dillhoff) writes:
- >>>> In article <1992Dec29.233922.2539@netcom.com> harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
- >>>>
- >>>All people are asking is that unless you can come up with some
- >>>*secular* reason for why their lifestyle choice is bad, you grant
- >>>them the same rights they are willing to grant you: the right to
- >>>live their life without persecution.
- >>
- >>Why is *secular* reasoning superior to religious reasoning?
- >>
- >
- >Because not everyone gives a damn about religion. The majority of the
- >world population isn't Christian. (Although Catholicism is the
- >largest single religion). Besides, 'religious reasoning' sounds like
- >an oxymoron.
- >
- >Andrew Jackson had a lot to say about avoiding religious arguments
- >pertaining to legislation.
- >
- >> [loads of opinionated attacks on secular reasoning deleted]
- >
- >Look, whatever your opinion of secular reasoning, religiously
- >justified 'reasoning' has a pretty poor history as well. The Catholic
- >church is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths alone. Look
- ^^^^^^^^^
- >at Hezbollah for a good example of religious 'reasoning'.
- >
- >-Howard
- >
- >
- Shouldn't that be millions?
-