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- From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
- Subject: Re: Sexuality
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.144516.5901@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>
- Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 14:45:16 GMT
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- References: <1992Dec31.204455.24642@news.columbia.edu> <1hvv30INNeca@hp-col.col.hp.com>
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- In article <1hvv30INNeca@hp-col.col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
-
- >.... I just can't believe that people who are
- >constantly subjected to stereotyping and negative generalizations
- >fall so quickly into it themselves. Everything I read here paints
- >all Christians as gay-hating fundies, and shows no concept for how
- >*average* christians think.
-
- Better sit down, Walter - I agree with you.
-
- Unfortunately, the *average* xian is a rarity in these groups - it's
- usually the hate-spewing, biblebook-quoting, self-righteous types. Thus, I
- and others react when someone comes around using their religion to justify
- anti-gay sentiment. Such arguments carry no weight whatsoever with me, and
- no one ever wins them anyway.
-
- My suggestion would be that xians base their discussions on tenets
- unrelated to religion, or at least don't use religion as justification for
- a view. I'm having an email debate on abortion rights with a xian, who not
- only doesn't use the biblebook as a weapon, but even allows that it and his
- religious beliefs don't make good tactics. Refreshing, and certainly
- affirming that there are rational xians out there.
-
- >I would have no problem being friends with someone who was
- >gay, and talking about gay issues with them; but they (if they were
- >most of the people who have posted on that subject here) wouldn't
- >with me.
-
- Your use of the subjunctive implies that you have no gay friends. If
- this is true, it says something to me about the attitude of acceptance that
- you project to others. You certainly know gay people; it just seems that
- they don't want to trust you with knowledge of who they are.
-
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- Howard Black cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
- Department of Chemistry Eastern Illinois Univ.
-