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- From: briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass)
- Subject: Re: Sexuality
- Organization: Anasazi Inc Phx Az USA
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:42:45 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.214245.11967@anasazi.com>
- References: <1992Dec30.200357.21464@lclark.edu> <1992Dec30.233732.20913@anasazi.com> <1992Dec31.062907.6352@microsoft.com>
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- In article <1992Dec31.062907.6352@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec30.233732.20913@anasazi.com> briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass) writes:
- >>In article <1992Dec30.200357.21464@lclark.edu> snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
- >>
- >>[stuff deleted]
- >>>
- >>>Okay....Now remember I am the person who supports you and your individule
- >>>rights.......Now are you willing to allow a class on sexuality that
- >>>shows homosexuality and heterosexuality in the same unbiased light, a
- >>>class that would be optional????
- >>
- >>Why would homosexuality or hetrosexuality have to be taught? That is if
- >>the class focused solely on the biology of human reproduction, the means of
- >>suppressing such reproduction, and the types and symptoms of diseases
- >>transmitted through such reproduction,
- >
- > Disease can be transmitted through non-reproductive sexual contact.
- >Are you suggesting that those diseases, the types of contact that
- >can potentially spread them, and the methods of preventing that
- >spread should be excluded from the curriculum?
-
- The class should deal with all STDs, and their means of transmission and
- symptoms. Sorry if I didn't make it clear.
-
- >> moral questions regarding sexuality
- >>can be dealt with in a psychology class.
- >
- > I don't think anyone is asking for the moral aspects be
- >examined in the sex ed course. All anyone is asking for is
- >equal time.
-
- Equal time for what? The class focused on the biology of reproduction, and
- diseases control. Very public health kind of stuff. The moral questions
- are things like when do you have sex with someone? Why? What do religions
- say on the subject? And things of that nature where generally there are
- two sides to the coin. These are the kind of questions dealt with in the
- psychology course. So, I don't see what you're asking for in regards to
- equal time.
-
- >
- >>At the public high school I went to, Sex-ed was a 6 month course taught by
- >>a biology teacher. The class was taught in a very clinical manner
- >>resticted to information of only biological content (reproduction,
- >>pregnancy prevention, disease control) and it was required.
- >
- > How useful was that class to gay students?
-
- Very useful, I would guess, since we had no publically avowed 16 year old
- homosexuals. Disease control is useful regardless of orientation, STDs
- doesn't discriminate. The class didn't talk about oral copulation, sodomy
- (that has such a religious connotation, is there a better euphimism, anal
- sex isn't much better.), as it purpose was to prevent pregnancies and diseases,
- not on how to. So, for what it was intended, I think it did its job. As for
- usefullness for gays, I don't know.
-
- >>Sexuality, as part of Psychology was reserved for Junior's and Seniors, and
- >>you had to have parental permission to take the optional course. Once in,
- >>everything was open for discussion, much to consternation of the
- >>administration.
- >
- > Sounds like a good idea to me.
-
- It was good. Lust, sex, religion, homophoby, orgies, homosexuality,
- assisnations, everything was open for discussion. There was no such thing as
- a wrong or right topic. The teacher, who as also the football strength coach,
- encouraged players to take his class, and then would shatter their narrow
- minded thinking patterns. He'd show you a picture of an aborted fetus, and
- then ask how it made you feel. They he'd show you pictures of starving
- children, deformed children, etc, and ask how that made you feel. Everyday,
- it would be something provocative like that. His point was show you that
- there were no absolutes, just opinions and theories, and that you should
- always try to look at the otherside of things.
-
- At 17, it was a rough class. At 15, I couldn't have handled it
- intelligently. Anything less than Junior I agree it would have been
- inappropriate for. But once in, it was an eyeful.
-
- I still think this is the best way to provide sex-education, and
- enlightenment, tolerance, and all that other nifty social enginneering
- to kids. At the right age, and of their own valition.
-
- > -Phil
- >
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- >Phil Lafornara 1 Microsoft Way
- >philipla@microsoft.com Redmond, WA 98052-6399
- >Note: Microsoft doesn't even _know_ that these are my opinions. So there.
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