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- From: rossco@iastate.edu (Ross Stenersen)
- Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices (was Re: Sexuality)
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- Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
- References: <1992Dec30.234500.21163@anasazi.com> <1992Dec31.005642.14893@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> <1992Dec31.191942.9665@anasazi.com>
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:32:38 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec31.191942.9665@anasazi.com> briand@anasazi.com (Brian Douglass) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec31.005642.14893@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:
- >>
- >>In article <1992Dec30.234500.21163@anasazi.com>, briand@anasazi.com
- >>(Brian Douglass) writes:
- >>|>
- >>|>>In article <1992Dec30.185545.26789@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
- >>|>>ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
- >>|>>
- >>|>>>All people are asking is that unless you can come up with some
- >>|>>>*secular* reason for why their lifestyle choice is bad, you grant
- >>|>Tell that to a smoker. Clearly this is a lifestyle choice, and yet
- >>|>non-smokers have persecuted them out of most public places. Why? Because
- >>|>...
- >>Read the first part again ! "unless you can come up with some *secular*
- >>reasons".
- >That was not the point I was addressing. The point is that the public and
- >government CAN discriminate against a segment of the population based on
- >lifestyle choices. Smoker's being an example.
-
- There is a reason for this "discrimination" against smokers: smoking is
- harmful to people who are around the smoker.
-
- >>You have come up with some secular reasons why smokers are
- >>discriminated against. And most people would support this. The question
- >>for Mr Douglass was and still is "Can you come up with some secular
- >>(non-religious) reasons to justify discrimination against homosexuals ?"
- >Homosexuals are currently discriminated from donating blood. As are IV
- >drug users, people who pay for sex, have recently visited certain
- >countries, etc. Because as a group these lifestyle choices present a public
- >health danger if they were allowed to donate. Therefore, blood banks are
- >...
- Again, there is a reason for this "discrimination" against homosexuals: this
- act is potentially very dangerous to OTHER people. I am also (by your
- definition of "discrimination") discriminated because I am required to wear
- glasses when I drive. And, only because I can't see without them. How
- terrible. I have never been rejected from housing because I have poor eyes.
- Nor, do I expect to be rejected from any job _that does not require good
- eyesight_ because of my eyes. In the same way homosexuals should not be
- kept out of housing, jobs, etc just because of their being sexual
- orientation, preferences or practices.
-
- >>How does granting equal protection to homosexuals impact the greater good
- >>of the public ?
- >Why is it necessary? My employer has no idea nor needs to know my sexual
- >preferences, attitudes, choices. Why must homosexuality have protection?
- >Must blonds next have protection because some hair-brained scientist shows
- >that on average they have lower IQs? Where does it stop?
- >
- >Discrimination in the work place based on anything other than job
- >qualifications, is discrimination. Why must we pigeon hole everyone in
- >society into these little minorities? That does nothing by fractionalize
- >...
- >Everytime we label another group of people under the law, we implicitly make
- >them seperate but equal, and that isn't equal.
- I agree here. I think they should just make a law that says something
- (although in more legal terms :-) like this:
-
- "It is illegal to discriminate against anybody for any reason. Pereiod.
- People should be selected for jobs based only on job qualifications."
-
- Of, course, if you consider keeping person A from harming person B because
- of something person A does discrimination then you have to re-word a bit. (I
- realize that sentence is a bit incorrect, but I think you can get the idea.)
-
- Rossco "Ignorance and prejudice
- rossco@iastate.edu "And fear
- rossco@cpre1.ee.iastate.edu "Walk hand in hand"
- rossco@aol.com --Rush ("Witch Hunt")
-