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- From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
- Subject: Re: Lifestyle Choices (was Re: Sexuality)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.041711.22902@nwnexus.WA.COM>
- Originator: elf@halcyon.com
- Sender: sso@nwnexus.WA.COM (System Security Officer)
- Organization: Pendor, UnLtd.
- References: <1992Dec30.191743.7958@asl.dl.nec.com>
- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:17:11 GMT
- Lines: 73
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- In article <1992Dec30.191743.7958@asl.dl.nec.com>
- dillhoff@aslws01.asl.dl.nec.com (Doug Dillhoff) writes:
-
- >So, will I get special rights if I am a meat eater?
-
- We're not talking about special rights, Doug, just equal ones.
- You're the one after special rights, after all-- you want your specific
- belief system taught in the public schools, to the exclusion of others.
-
- >All I am saying is that unless you can show me that homosexual sex
- >can create life (as the heterosexual sex act does) than it is an
- >un-natural act. Homosexual sex uses a human output device (waste
- >disposal) as an input device. This is not natural and therefore
- >should not be considered normal and should not be taught as an
- >alternate lifestyle.
-
- This is an old argument, Doug. I'm sure all the lesbians in the
- audience are amused by assumption that "homosexual sex uses a human
- output device," as are the 47% of all homosexual men who don't engage
- in anal sex.
-
- Since you're so adamant to flame homosexuals for having anal sex,
- let me throw statistics at you:
-
- (a) 10% of the population of the United States is gay or has actively
- participated in homosexual acts. (Kinsey, Pomroy, et. al.)
- (Actually, Kinsey stated that 33% of the population had at
- one time or another participated in at least one homosexual
- act.)
-
- (b) 60% of the population of the United States has tried anal sex.
- (More to the point: Pomroy, Rice, Noble, et. al. put the
- numbers at 67% of American women and 47% of American men had
- had something inserted into their anus as sexplay.)
-
- Since both percentages refer to the same base (The population of
- the United States), we can subtract (b) from (a), and what do we find?
-
- Assuming (1) that all gay men like anal sex (Not true... I know
- quite a few that don't... reliable figures (Saghir and Robbins, 1978)
- show that only 53% of gay men enjoyed anal intercourse. Note the
- study date was before the advent of HIV.) and (2) that the 10% figure
- quoted in (a) represents ONLY males, we find:
-
- *AT LEAST* FIVE TIMES AS MANY HETEROSEXUALS AS HOMOSEXUALS HAVE
- HAD ANAL SEX.
-
- Also, looking at the Saghir and Robbins study closely, we discover
- that 47% of all gay men don't have anal intercourse. Please explain to
- me, now that I've dissected your anal sex argument and found it
- wanting, how you propose to hate those 4 to 5 million American
- homosexual men who don't have anal sex?
-
- Please stop arguing that homosexuality is unnatural on the basis of
- anal sex. It makes you look uneducated.
-
- Meanwhile, heterosexuals are getting blowjobs and handjobs right
- along with their anal sex, and they're using birth control, too!
-
- Face it, Doug, you're outmaneuvered on this one.
-
- Elf !!!
- --
- elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
-
- Then, I was inspired. God, thy will is hard
- Now, I'm sad and tired. But you hold every card.
- Listen, surely I've exceeded I will drink your cup of poison.
- Expectations. Nail me to your cross and break me.
- Tried for three years, Bleed me, beat me.
- Seems like thirty. Kill me.
- Could you ask as much Take me now.
- From any other man? Before I change my mind.
-