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- From: fritzs@microsoft.com (Fritz Sands)
- Subject: Re: Showering in the Military (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about: )
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.225950.9023@microsoft.com>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 22:59:50 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corporation
- References: <1992Dec25.223246.23361@netcom.com> <1992Dec26.194444.2601@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> <1992Dec29.004539.5683@anasazi.com>
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- In article <1992Dec29.004539.5683@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com writes:
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- | The argument (actually, the part of it germain to your comment) is
- | that integrating gays into the military would adversely affect military
- | unit cohesion, and that coercion is not enough to fix that;
-
- First, why *isn't* coercion enough?
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- Second -- the same arguement was used in opposition to integrating blacks
- into the military, and is now used in opposition to fully integrating
- women into the military. It could be used in opposition to fully
- integrating people from different ethnic groups (say, people of Greek
- and Turkish descent), or from different religions.
-
- Purportedly, the military trains young men and women to be responsible
- enough to fight, kill, and die together; to use weapons of awesome power;
- to survive brutality and torture if captured. I think that, in all of
- this character-building, the military could sort of figure out how to
- drill in a little tolerance.
-
-
- | furthermore,
- | that (unlike the case with blacks), it is NOT important to the united
- | states to integrate gays at that expense.
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- Please tell me why one is important and the other isn't?
-
- | Other arguments, such as
- | violation of privacy of hets also exist.
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- If I am required to shower with a bunch of other men, how is it different
- if some number of them are gay? How is my privacy more violated?
-
- There are, now, quite a few gays in the military. Is the privacy of a
- het more violated if sie knows that other people in the shower are gay?
-
- Fritz
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