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- From: smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
- Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
- Subject: Re: Sexuality
- Date: 30 Dec 1992 00:32:06 GMT
- Organization: Colorado Springs IT Center
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- harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:
- >
- > The difference between most
- > straight people and myself is that I'm not afraid of or uncomfortable
- > with sex. I overcame the "Sex is a horrible, dirty thing that you
- > only share with the one you love" message that confuses most children
- > in the U.S.
-
- I'm a little confused here. Most people don't think "Sex is a horrible, dirty thing".
- On the other hand, you said you were monogamous; and then said "...that you
- only share with the one you love" part. Are you only monogamous out of safety,
- or are you monogamous out of love? Why do you feel monogamy is the right
- thing to do?
-
- > In my opinion, the reason that lesbigay people have the reputation
- > they do is because most straight people think that the outspoken ones
- > are the only ones out there.
-
- Yeah, it tends to be the same with Christians...
-
- > The problem here is that in respecting your views, others' views are
- > ignored. You must respect theirs as well.
-
- Which is always the hard part, when the views differ to such a radical
- extent. But it is a challenge that needs to be accepted and dealt with.
-
- > The teachings of YOUR God conflict with the views of billions of
- > people on this planet. What gives you the right to force them on
- > others? You may say that you are not forcing these views on anyone,
- > but the default in this country tends to suit your views, so you
- > simply don't notice.
-
- Greg, you were doing good till there. Wheather or not Christianity
- conflicts with other religions around the world isnt the point; we're
- talking about the US. Please don't mess up a good line of thought with
- needless exxageration.
-
- > Last I
- > checked, the parents were supposed to be the ones responsible for the
- > child in the first place. When did that change?
-
- Well, that's part of what ticks people off about the COTR issue; some
- people in this forum (Tim Pierce?) said that if we, as parents, don't
- do a good enough job of educating our kids that it is 'ok' to be gay,
- then the school should do it for us, if we like it or not. It's the
- fact that people want to *take away* that responsibility that has
- people in an uproar.
-
- > However, removing all of these things from the school environment is
- > impossible, and IMO, not the best solution anyway. Instead, we have
- > to teach children (at home and in school) to feel free to have
- > whatever views they (or their parents) wish, but to learn and
- > understand that others don't necessarily share those views, and that
- > they should not be persecuted for that reason.
-
- I'll buy that; everyone is a valuable person, and should be respected
- as such, regardless if you agree with their lifestyle; I *strongly*
- disagree with the Jehovahs Witnesses and they me; but I can be
- friends with a JW, because we can *tolerate* the things about each
- other that we don't *accept*. We can disagree strongly, and still
- respect the other person. Unfortunately, from what I've read in USENET,
- this is not the case for gay folks in general. I've seen articles saying
- that if a friend can only 'tolerate' your homosexuality, and not accept
- it as ok, then you shouldn't be their friend. I really think this
- is too bad.
-
- > In the case of sexuality, we must stop teaching by default that
- > homosexuality and bisexuality is wrong.
-
- How does the school system teach that now? They don't teach it
- at all. They may, by the typical examples of families used, teach
- that a hetro family is 'normal', but that doesn't mean by default
- that they teach a homosexual fmaily is wrong.
-
- > kids this at home (or hand them off to the church like so many
- > parents) that's fine by me. Just don't be surprised when their
- > opinion is in the minority.
-
- Well, first of all, I don't know *anyone* who just "hands their kids
- over to the chuch". Nice but of anti-religious-slam, though. As for
- their opinions being in the majority, I think the opposite is true.
- I think the majority things homosexuality is not a 'good thing', but
- also think that diversity should be tolerated, and people should not
- be harassed or persecuted for it.
-
- Walter
-
-