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- From: greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt)
- Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
- Subject: Re: The "L" word
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.140437.28515@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 19:04:37 GMT
- References: <w2s218@rpi.edu>
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- In article <w2s218@rpi.edu> J.R. Ordon, root@june.cmp.rpi.edu writes:
- >In article <1992Dec22.074155.21558@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org
- (Mike
- >A. McAngus) writes:
- >>Owen Barrus (omb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM) wrote:
- >>: In alt.fan.rushlimbaugh, crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
- writes:
- >>
- >>I classify myself as a liberal and hold to the following beliefs:
- >>1) Civil liberties are important to the point where every care must be
- taken in
- >>criminal trials so that innocent people are not wrongly convicted.
- >>2) Tax exemptions for all religious income and property should be repealed.
- >>3) Only charitable organizations that directly benefit the poor should
- remain
- >>tax exempt.
- >>4) Tax deductions for political contributions should be eliminated.
- >>5) The country should go to a yearround school calendar.
- >>6) The Electoral College should be done away with.
- >>7) Abortion should remain safe and legal.
- >>8) Anyone who is invited to speak anywhere should be allowed to be heard,
- and
- >>any disruptive elements should be removed from the venue.
- >>9) Homosexual activity should not be deemed a crime.
- >>10) Gays should be allowed in the military.
- >>
- >>And the list goes on and on.
- >>
- >
- >As a conservative, I totally agree with you in numbers 2,3,4,5,6,8,9.
- >
- >The rest?
- >
- >Number 1... well yes, but we must do something about the victims rights
- also.
- >
- >Number 7 ... Personally, I'm prolife, but I do not feel that I should force
- > my personal beliefs on others.(unlike some liberals &
- > Conservatives). Majority rule should prevail.
- >
- >Number 10 ..Gays ARE in the military, if people doubt this, they're naive.
- > yes, gays cannot admit it, and this should be changed, but with
- > moderation.
- >
- >Now for my additions...
- >
- >Number 11. All people should have equal rights, NOT special rights.
- >Number 12. Job employment should be based on ability and qualifications,
- > NOT quotas. This puts me against Affirmative Action.
- >Number 13. Criminals should be treated as just that. I do not believe
- > in making excuses for their actions, bad childhood, poor
- family,
- > Child abuse, ad nausem. Criminals should not be slapped on the
- > wrist, build more prisons if need be. Eliminate the parole
- > system and have standard sentences for crimes.
-
-
- Actually, I think you both make splendid conservatives. However, you would
- make terrible Republicans.
-
- Why? Because the Republicans are no more Conservative, in the traditional
- sense, than are the Democrats, especially with the recent Democratic shift
- toward moderation. We are left with a choice between secular liberalism
- (Democrats) vs. corporate totalarianism (Republicans).
-
- Traditional Conservativism holds that government should only involve itself
- in areas where there is a clear need and a clear solution. Both parties
- have been too busy building empires with the proceeds from special interests
- to keep site of that principle. The result is that we have a govenment that
- is involved in =everything= and consequently does more harm than good, on
- balance. And, on top of all that, they waste a great deal of our national
- economic resources doing it.
-
- We share an unfortunate bond with the former Soviet Union. We have both
- become addicted to "government." I hope we can start weaning ourselves
- before we face the kind of economic withdrawal symptoms that they are
- enduring. If we don't, then it will be just as ugly here.
-
- Greg Bradt aka ()The Lensman()
-
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