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- From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
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- Subject: Re: Rush Courts the FAAAR Right
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- Date: 22 Dec 92 21:59:56 GMT
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- hooker@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (BOB HOOKER) writes:
- >nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
- >> I would say that
- >> Rush was basically correct that religion deals with the subject of the
- >> soul, and I would also agree that religion can serve as a stabilizing,
- >> civilizing influence on society (at least that's been the case throughout
- >> written history; it may have changed in the last couple of years but I
- >> doubt it).
-
- >What are you talking about? Through out history some of the grossest acts
- >of inhumanity have been carried out in the name of religion.
-
- That may be true, however I still maintain that religion is generally
- a stabilizing, civilizing influence. From Mesopotamian agricultural temple
- communities onward, religion has played a major role in maintaining a
- status quo, and of reconciling individuals to their place in society.
-
- >Did the presence of religious faith "stabalize" the Inquisition, the 100
- >years war, Witch Craze, etc etc etc etc?
-
- To a certain extent, yes it did. Individual acts of cruelty aside,
- the societal role of the church throughout the Renaissance was extremely
- profound. It's concurance with the idea that monarchs were ordained by God
- did a great deal to strengthen the movement towards centralized governments
- (And aren't we glad *that* happened?).
-
- As individual balkanized city states were gathered under the rule of
- fewer and more central governments, the result was an increase in areas
- living under the relatively peaceful rule of law. In response to the peace
- came a corresponding increase in trade, population, and (at least for a
- while) standard of living.
-
- It's important to bear in mind what was going on in Europe during
- the time that the above atrocities took place. Diseases like plague,
- typhus, and tuberculosis were in the process of wiping out between 50
- and 70 percent of the population of Europe; the survivors appear to
- have suffered from the strain that these inexplicable deaths placed
- on the social order. It's unfortunate but true that their reactions
- were not always of the most rational or compassionate nature, but I
- don't think that it's appropriate to blame religion for the admitted
- problems without also giving it credit for its successes.
-
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