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- From: pauljo@microsoft.com (Paul Johns)
- Subject: Re: Showering in the Military (Re: Gays in the Military..what nobody is talking about:)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.213920.13621@microsoft.com>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 21:39:20 GMT
- Organization: Microsoft Corp.
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- In article <1992Dec14.184223.25697@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu wrote:
-
- > No need for flames. You simply know very little about the military. When
- > women were allowed into the military, millions of dollars were spent in
- > order to provide separate facilities for them. Likewise, dollars will have
- > to be spent to provide separate facilities for gays. Before you answer,
- > "They can use the same facilities as heteros." let me ask you: Who will
- > decide that? So far, gays (and a few simpathizers) want to shower with
- > heteros, and don't think it will be a big deal. Most heteros (esp. in the
- > active duty now), will think it is a very big deal.
-
- How do "most" of them currently feel? They're already showering with gays.
- How will removing the ban change that? Answer: it won't, and the argument
- is a smokescreen because the bigotry that underlies it doesn't work as an
- argument, either.
-
- All these big tough fighting men who'll be so afraid of dropping soap in
- the shower....
-
- > This leads us right
- > back to a point I made about a week ago. Nobody cares a lick about how
- > the heteros will feel about this. We are not PC. We do not matter.
-
- Poor baby!! And how much do YOU care about someone who's denied the
- opportunity to serve the country they love? Or don't THEY matter because
- they're not hetero?
-
- I certainly support all the counseling that heterosexuals (or anyone) needs
- to get over their homophobia. So I do care. But it's time to end this ban,
- so let's figure out how to do it with as little disruption as possible instead
- of making things worse by fighting about it.
-
- // Paul Johns
-