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- From: casivils@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (craig sivils)
- Subject: Re: antihomosexualism a phobia -- *NOT*! -- *NOT*!
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- References: <1992Dec2.114858.13462@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com> <1992Dec11.014326.10008@rchland.ibm.com> <1992Dec11.095038.4514@wkuvx1.bitnet> <Bz4oLq.JI6@ns1.nodak.edu> <Jym.18Dec1992.1224@naughty-peahen>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 22:29:39 GMT
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- In <Jym.18Dec1992.1224@naughty-peahen> Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu> writes:
-
- >> I think Jeff has made one of the most reasoned statements
- >> lately about the stand most "normal" people take. We don't
- >> "fear" homosexuals, we don't "hate" homosexuals, we just feel
- >> homosexuality is wrong.
-
- >=\= Technically speaking, a phobia isn't necessarily fear, it
- >is an irrational aversion to something. This often manifests
- >itself as fear and as hatred.
-
- often=always? Isn't one of the basic concepts here that we shouldn't
- make sweeping generalizations about groups of people.
-
- >=\= But homophobia also includes "just feeling that it's wrong,"
- >if such is irrational. And what could be rational about an
- >aversion to something that's none of your business and doesn't
- >involve you?
-
- LOGIC FLAW!!!!!!
- Is this the new scale for morality? If it doesn't effect you then you
- have no right do decide if it is right or wrong? Then any successful murder
- can't be wrong because the killer did it and the victim is gone. (Yes, the
- example is extreme but the fundamental logic is the same, this is my life and
- you should accept anything that I decide to do for myself).
-
- >=\= I can understand such an aversion out of ignorance, since
- >ignorance on this issue is so abundant. But to maintain the
- >aversion in the face of facts that don't support it -- well,
- >that's irrational. Phobic, in fact.
- > <_Jym_>
-
-
- You use the word irrational several times, the argument seems irrational to me,
- why don't you do more than throw smoke, what are the "FACTS"????
- I may be so irrational as to take the bible at face value and when it says
- that homosexuality is wrong, thats enough for me. Now, please tell me what
- phobia it is, to group me into a general group and make condescending and border
- line rude remarks about my group just on the basis of my religion.
-
- Craig
-