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- From: hartman@informix.com (Robert Hartman)
- Newsgroups: alt.recovery
- Subject: Re: "We are not allied with any sect or denomination" - Really?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.200353.20848@informix.com>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 20:03:53 GMT
- References: <1992Dec15.170958.22521@Cadence.COM>
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- In article <1992Dec15.170958.22521@Cadence.COM> jerpseth@sd.cadence.com (James Jerpseth) writes:
- >Oh for the nievette of 6 months, to believe deep in my heart
- >that I, and only I, know how the 12 steps should be re-wriiten.
- >To be the only one qualified to re-write a program for millions
- >of people in my own image and needs.
- > ...
-
- Hmmm. Last I heard, the program was primarily _for_ newcomers, and
- that what we oldtimers are there for is to remember why we came in the
- first place. When I was a newcomer, one of the things I most
- appreciated was a chance to be heard out, and to have my perspective
- acknowledged and validated--or at very least, respected. If my views
- had been pooh-poohed like this, I'd still be actively addicted. Why?
- Because I would have felt that my needs wouldn't get met in the
- program--and if my needs in life aren't going to get met anyway, I
- might as well do what I like.
-
- Everyone's program is different. Everyone's needs are different. When
- I first came into the program, one of the things I had to do to further
- my recovery was to fire God. I HAD TO FIRE GOD! Why? Because concept
- of God that I acquired through a fundamentalist Christian sect was so
- judgemental, so viscious, and so uncaring, that as long as I continued
- any relationship with Him my recovery was doomed. So I FIRED HIM!
-
- Needless to say, regardless of all those other millions of people (and
- I wonder how many of whom might also have similar trouble with the
- Christian influence in the program), personally, I HAD TROUBLE WITH IT,
- and for the record, after four years I STILL HAVE TROUBLE WITH IT. And
- in every meeting I've been to where the issue has come up, there's been
- at least one other person besides myself who agrees with me.
-
- To me, the most important thing to remember about the program is that
- it isn't perfect. It works well enough that it doesn't have to be
- perfect. If it's perfect for you, fine. But please do me the kindness
- of remembering that it isn't perfect for _me._ There are things about
- it I don't like, that aren't good for me, but that I put up with for
- the sake of the things that _are_ good for me. On the whole it's a
- win for me, but if I could change certain things, I would.
-
- And so, as one of those millions who's had to put up with The Lord's
- Prayer (just what I need in an HP, ... a "lord" ... no thanks!), please
- remember that I am tolerating this sectarian intrusion into my program
- for the sake of _your_ recovery. I'd appreciate a little respect for
- my position and those who feel as I do.
-
- At a minimum, please do me the kindness of never using that sort of
- line on a newcomer again.
-
- Thank you,
-
- Robert Hartman
-