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- From: peter@cs.umbc.edu (Pete Johansson)
- Newsgroups: alt.rave
- Subject: Re: rave?
- Date: 4 Jan 1993 00:30:59 -0500
- Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
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- References: <1993Jan01.023532.8182@rose.com> <y9rrnyg@lynx.unm.edu>
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- greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
-
- > the whole idea of a rave (and the basis of the subculture it is
- > spawning) is to get together with people you don't know, and meet them.
-
- lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) responds:
-
- >And that, by itself, isn't attractive to me. I'm not a gregarious person
- >-- crowds of strangers don't make me feel welcome, they make me feel
- >crowded. [...]
-
- I'm not sure that is a valid argument. Or at the very least, I feel
- you are contradicting yourself. IMHO, I cannot think of a larger
- crowd of strangers than the usenet. And I don't see how a person who
- takes the time to post a well-written message to hundreds if not
- thousands of readers can be described as "not gregarious."
-
- greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp) writes:
-
- > ...as you stated in your message, you _would_ go to a rave if you knew
- > people from the net were going to be there (ie. DJing).
-
- lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
-
- >Yeah, because after several years of facelessly throwing messages back and
- >forth, it'd be great to finally meet some of those folks in person.
-
- Really now, what's the difference? The net is a rather daunting place
- when you first enter it. Hundreds of thousands of people all arround
- the world typing something on the order of 10 million characters per day.
- Kind of gives new meaning to the definition of crowded. And all
- strangers, known only the prose they type. But the point is, you hang
- out for a while, read, absorb, learn who's who, and then throw
- yourself headstrong into the middle of things. Is a net.person
- really that faceless? I would like to think not.
-
- Personally, I see a lot of similariries between raves and usenet.
- They are merely situations that allow people to interact. The medium
- is irrelivant. The music is irrelivant. (this is why Dead shows have
- been compared to raves.) The culture exists as a result of the
- people, not vice-versa. And the best part is that the people who do
- participate are generally intelligent and open-minded. The safety and
- anonyminity allow you to say and discuss things that most people might
- not feel confortable with in more "common" situations.
-
- I will admit that there are problems with raves, especially the drug
- use at illegal raves. In a perfect world the rave would be a
- substitute for drug use, and for many people (myself included here)
- this is just the case. I see many people so into their drugs that
- they are incapable of conversation or interaction, a fact which I find
- disappointing. But face it folks, it's not a perfect world.
-
- I don't want to end on a down note, but I will end with a bit of info
- only Lazlo may appreciate - I remember the days, long ago, of a
- certain, so-called AE-line, run on an Apple ][ with four floppy
- drives, known as the Terrapin Station, where possibly less than legal
- file transfers occurred, often through less than legal telephone
- connections. And stories by the great fiction writer Tristan
- Alexander Farnon were told. Ahhh, weren't those the days?
-
- Peter Johansson (peter@cs.umbc.edu)
- Always looking for rave info in the Baltimore/DC area. Email please!
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