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- From: kbeal@amber (Ken Beal)
- Newsgroups: alt.quotations
- Subject: Re: Slick Willie
- Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:45:49 GMT
- Organization: Harris CSD, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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- Roger Phillips (roger@quantime.co.uk) wrote:
- : In article <1992Dec21.204854.3444@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
- : Chuck.Lavazzi@launchpad.unc.edu (Chuck Lavazzi) writes:
- : > does anyone remember the exact quote and source for
- : > the line about patriotism being the last refuge of the scoundrel?
- :
- : "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."
- : -- Samuel Johnson (1709-1784),
- : Boswell's _Life of Johnson_, vol. 2, p. 344 (6 Apr 1775)
-
- I'd like to take exception to this, as well as Asimov's quote from his
- _Foundation_ series that:
-
- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent."
-
- While they >sound< great, they are both grammatically incorrect (or, I am
- reading the wrong thing into them, which could be the case but I doubt it).
-
- If X was the "last refuge" of Y, then wouldn't it make sense that Y would
- try >everything else< before trying X? I.e. it is their "last resort," as
- it were? This would be giving Y much more credit than Y deserves (i.e.
- the quotes are trying to show that Y is wrong/a fool/an idiot, and my
- grammatical interpretation of them shows that Y will exhaust all options
- before trying X).
-
- It would be much better worded "X is the first refuge of Y", would it not?
-
- Just a thought.
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