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- From: miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner nmscore Assoc.)
- Subject: Re: "Cheating"
- Message-ID: <1993Jan4.021624.5451@tcsi.com>
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- Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
- References: <725616049.AA00762@tdkt.kksys.com> <1992Dec30.170528.16344@toontown.uucp> <1992Dec31.011416.6712@netcom.com>
- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:16:24 GMT
- Lines: 57
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- In article <1992Dec31.011416.6712@netcom.com> weissman@netcom.com (Bob Weissman) writes:
- >In <1992Dec30.170528.16344@toontown.uucp> ucda@toontown.uucp (Chris Andersen) writes:
- >
- >>I've had my fair share of sex, vaginal and otherwise, and I've enjoyed it.
- >>But I've never completely understood what the big deal is. I've understood
- >>the problems intellectually. But I've never had a corresponding emotional or
- >>empathetic understanding. It's just a totally foreign concept to me to see
- >>sex as anything really more then a basic biological function ranking up
- >>there with eating, sleeping, and taking a shit.
- >
- >Whew. If you find taking a shit as satisfying as having sex, I pity you.
-
- I think you might be quoting Chris a little bit out of context, here, but I'll
- leave the final judgement on that to Chris.
-
- Not-too-famous quote from Clint Eastwood, of all people: "If I've had a good
- shit, and a good laugh, I've had a good day." (It made me think the better
- of him -- it made me realize anew that getting older is no picnic, even for
- Republicans like him who seem to have turned senescence into an elite
- profession. But I digress, as usual.)
-
- Good sex combines the best aspects of one of those wonderful biological
- satisfactions with the emotional satisfactions of a good laugh (or a good
- cry, for that matter). But frankly, if I thought that sex would never
- offer emotional satisfaction again, I'd stick with masturbation. Sex is
- not a purely excretory exercise in individual endorphin release, and only
- a fool would think so. It is essentially interactive.
-
- I've had lots of sex that I'd rank lower than many good meals, good sleeps --
- and good shits, for that matter. The reason for the lower ranking almost
- always had to do with flaws in my relationship with the person I was having
- sex with.
-
- And likewise, I've had many good laughs (and good cries) that were better
- than lots of sex I've had, and the (often non-sexual) relationship I had
- with the person I was laughing or crying with had everything to do with
- THAT ranking as well.
-
- >The reason sex is more satisfying than the activities with which you compare
- >it is that it involves intimacy with another person. I would have thought
- >this was obvious.
-
- The reductionist "sex is just a biological function" bit is a common pseudo-
- profundity. Sometimes "the obvious" goes by the wayside as people begin to
- exercise their intuitions on a new topic. Sometimes they come around again.
- Sometimes they don't.
-
- >>I've often thought that the world might be a better place if people just had
- >>more sex (and enjoyed it for what it is).
- >
- >Now there's a statement I can agree with.
-
- Making the world a better place will never be that simple. Unfortunately.
- But at least it's a half-truth with which I can agree half-way.
- ---
- Michael Turner
- miket@tcs.com
-