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- From: kumagic@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Stephen R. Figgins)
- Newsgroups: alt.pagan
- Subject: Re: Faggots and witches (again)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.092057.45891@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 09:20:57 CST
- References: <1992Dec22.175528.3934@news.acns.nwu.edu> <1992Dec22.194238.16593@netcom.com>
- Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services
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- >>... By calling _themselves_ "faggots," they affirm those homosexual
- >>males persecuted in the Middle Ages: "When a woman was to be burned
- >>as a witch, men accused of homosexuality were bound and mixed
- >>with the bundles of kindling (faggots) at the feet of the witch,
- >>and set of fire 'to kindle a flame foul enough for a witch to burn
- >>in.' So the enemy has always seen that strong women and gentle men
- >>are a real threat to masculine domination." This quote is from
- >>Double-F, A Magazine of Effeminism...
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- >>
- >>Can any of you confirm or deny this further?
- >
- > Sure. It's complete and unadulterated bullshit. No surprise,
- > coming from Morgan.
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- This interpretation of the word "faggot" is one I have been familiar
- with for a long time. I do think it predates Morgan, although I am
- not sure how accurate it is. It is true that gay men were often
- bundled up and thrown onto the witches fire, if not burned as
- witches themselves.
-
- There are several cases on record of men replying to accusations of
- heresy by claiming they had wives they slept with, and children.
- Heresy had at several points of the inquisition become synonymous with
- homosexuality, and was a burning offense.
-
- Judy Grahn in Another Mother Tongue takes a close look at the meaning
- of faggot as a flaming stick, or more accurately a sacred flaming
- stick or wand, like the flowering rod of the south. One origin of the
- word faggot is fagus, the latin word for a beech tree, a sacred tree
- of the fairies, sorcerors and magical kings. It was the beech tree
- that Joan of Arc visited to hear her voice messages. During her trial
- she was accused of dancing around this tree with the fairy people.
-
- The term faggot may have originated with the association of a sacred
- and magical burning stick, or a wand, symbols of male sexual energy
- and power. This interpretation is more empowering than the
- association made during the burning times. But some of us remember
- our fallen brothers, and how the boys burned too. It is hard for me
- to use the word faggot without remembering both.
-
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