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- From: rainbow@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Hammond)
- Newsgroups: alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
- Subject: Re: Wire-Head Sex, VR sex, Sex with Droids and Noids.
- Date: 2 Jan 1993 16:06:34 GMT
- Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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- In article <BzMCHu.2s0@cs.vu.nl> mcvos@cs.vu.nl (Vos MC) writes:
- >Jeffrey Clark writes:
- >Philip Nason Burt writes:
- >I don't think happiness is the same as pleasure. Happiness is pretty
- >independent from pleasure actually.
- >
- >: decision! Hmmmm.
- >
- >You only really talk about pleasure here. IMHO happiness is much more
- >important than pleasure. Addictions may give you pleasure, but they'll
- >never give you happiness. (sometimes I'm even worried about my computer
- >addiction.) If pleasure's the main goal in your life, it might be the
- >way, but as for happiness (or truth, in my case) definitely NOT.
- >: Jeff.
- >Great Greetings,
- >(mcvos@cs.vu.nl)
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- Some words here are being lewd, stewed and barbeequed, as well as
- minced. Pleasure and happiness. I think all would say that
- pleasure makes one happy and that happiness is a pleasure. Let's
- face it that we acquired a couple words with bare shades of
- difference in meaning. The "concerned" person is expressing that
- a *momentary* distraction that is experimental, (and may not even
- be that pleasurable, like your first time you got drunk and threw
- up), may not lead to happiness. That is obvious to everyone. Sex
- is like that, if you get HIV or pregnant from it, it may not make
- you happy. But people who maintain that these are the same are
- making a statement that you haven't been getting, oh "concerned"
- one! And that is that the things that make us happy in the final
- analysis were all pleasurable things to do, in the long and the
- short run, and that things that don't give us pleasure in the
- long run, therefore happiness, are not things that give us
- pleasure in the short run either, they only look like them at a
- distance. Once one gets right up to them, they can see, if they
- stop to look, what is genuinely pleasurable and leads to
- happiness. Having sex when you think you might get HIV that way
- tends to ruin it, I guarantee! Think up other examples as an
- exercise for the student.
- -RSW
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