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- From: jim@rand.org (Jim Gillogly)
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- Subject: Re: Bombadil etc.
- Message-ID: <4134@randvax.rand.org>
- Date: 3 Jan 93 17:20:19 GMT
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- Various people are on both sides of this question:
-
- > Are you in fact convinced that the Olorin (Maia) and Gandalf were
- > one and the same? I'm not. True, it would be convincing in some ways,
- > but what about the other Istari? Why would Saruman be chosen as head
- > of the White Council, and not mentioned otherwise? I admit that I
- > go back and forth on the issue of whether Gandalf-Mithrandir was
- > the Olorin, but today, I don't think so.
-
- I'm sorry to come into the conversation late, but I don't understand how
- Olorin could be anybody <other> than Gandalf, given Gandalf's own
- recollection that he was once known as Olorin, and that Olorin is known
- to have been one of the Istari. Is the argument that when resurrected as
- Gandalf the White he was a different person? That seems patently bogus,
- or at least grossly unsupported. If not, how can there be any doubt about
- this identification?
-
- --
- Jim Gillogly
- Mersday, 12 Afteryule S.R. 1993, 17:20
-