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- From: popec@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (William C. Barwell)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
- Subject: Re: The "L" word
- Message-ID: <1J4RwB4w165w@unkaphaed.gbdata.com>
- Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 02:03:11 GMT
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- Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX
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- mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz) writes:
-
- > Robert Johnston (rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
- > : Economically speaking, a liberal is someone who thinks that it is the
- > : governments role to allow for the greatest median standard of living,
- > : while a conservative feels that it is the governments role to allow for
- > : the greatest mean standard of living
- > :
- >
- > My most simplistic (i.e. shortest amount to type) definition of liberalism
- > and conservatism:
- >
- > 1. Liberals believe in active government
- > Conservatives believe in passive government
- > 2. Liberals would have governmental legislation telling us what to do.
- > Conservatives would have governmental legislation telling us what
- > NOT to do
- > 3. Liberals believe government can force people to be equal
- > Conservatives believe that people should have equal opportunity
- > to succeed
- > 4. Liberal agenda seeks short term solutions to current problems
- > Conservative agenda seeks long term solutions to current problems
- > 5. Liberals believe that global solutions by the central government
- > work equally well for Californians as for Arkansans
- > Conservatives believe in that California and Arkansas have their
- > own unique problems that are better solved on the local level.
- > 6. Liberals believe that the government knows how to spend the money
- > we earn better than we do.
- > Conservatives believe in exactly the opposite.
- > 7. Liberals believe that the government should drive the social agenda
- > of the nation
- > Conservatives believe that people in smaller groups should drive
- > their own social agenda
- > 8. Liberals believe that the quality of life is determined by share of
- > the nation's GNP
- > Conservatives believe that quality of life is improved by increasing
- > the nation's GNP
- > 9. Liberals believe that because of obstacles, people can not succeed.
- > Conservatives believe that in spite of obstacles, people succeed.
- > 10. Liberals believe that the free market fails because the rich get
- > richer.
- > Conservatives believe that the free market succeeds because those
- > everyone gets richer in the long run.
- > 11. Liberals use "emotional appeal" arguments to further their agenda.
- > Conservatives use logic and common sense to further their agenda.
- >
- > When a liberal realizes #6 above is true, he becomes a conservative :)
- >
-
-
- What a nice list of strawmen and false definitions you have erected here.
- Thsi tells more about the minds of neoconservatists here than about the
- true differences about conservatives VS liberals. And where do moderates
- fit in. And what about the differences between Country Club
- Conservatives, religous right Conservatives, and hard right
- conservatives. Plus all the various extreme splinter factions of
- conservatism. You are too glib by half!
-
- Pope Charles SubGenius Pope Of Houston. Slack!
-
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