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- From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
- Subject: Re: the rabid Bob Dornan
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:23:44 GMT
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- Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way (larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu) wrote:
- : Bob Dornan's amazing equation of "sexual deviations" including simple
- : homosexuality with child molesting and serial rape crimes showed him up
- : for the complete jerk he is.
- :
-
- I happen to be of the opinion that child molesting and serial rape crimes
- are indeed sexual deviations. Equating homosexuality with these deviate
- behaviors with simple homosexuality seems to be his way of using a very
- liberal argument/technique... A constant "complaint" I hear from my liberal
- friends is that "x" activity chips away at "y" part of liberties as defined
- by liberals. I have no problem with people being homosexual - it is a fact
- of life that some people are of this persuasion. The bottom line is that
- sexuality between two people belongs in the bedroom, not in congress or the
- military or our schools. Let me qualify this by saying that strict biological
- sexual education (i.e. what is reproduction) CAN be taught in schools -
- the question here is whether it is properly taught and whether they way it
- is being taught actually exasberates problems like STDs, teen pregnancy,
- etc. As for Dornan, he is certainly passionate about HIS beliefs and has
- every right to speak as passionately about them as he chooses.
-
- At this point, I would like to refer to the typical liberal reaction to
- Pat Buchanan... He uses a term like "MILITANT homosexual" and complains
- about how this militancy should not be the driving force in achieving
- social change, and he is branded a gay basher. Being a MILITANT anything
- is asking for trouble, whether it is homosexuality, abortion, civil rights,
- or any other social agenda...
-
- : Dornan resorted to the major New Right tactic - simply project your target
- : subject to the wildest possible extreme, even far beyond any reachable
- : connection or relevance, generalize again, and continue by ranting on
- : about the developed extreme. Then stand back and hope some of your manure
- : stuck.
- :
-
- I bet you hope your "manure" about New Right _whatever_ sticks, I'm sure.
-
- : In this manner Dornan has again proven himself a viable pinch hitter for
- : Rush Limbaugh on radio. Now if he can figure out how to mug moronic looks
- : during video bites, he may be able to sit in for Rush on TV too.
- :
-
- Sigh. More manure, this time you hope it sticks to Rush? I'm not trying
- to get on your case about it - far from it. However, I wonder why you
- think it is ok tactic for you, but not for Dornan...
-
- I do not agree with everything Dornan has said, but much of what he says
- is indeed on the mark. He presented absolute concrete example after concrete
- example of the use of the media (TV shows) to chip away at social values
- that he feels are important... In my book, his social values should have
- EQUAL value as your social values...
-
- TO be specific, Dornan cited examples of bestiality, mutilation, defication,
- reference to genetals, child abuse, etc., that he saw in just a couple of
- hours of prime-time tv. The man does NOT propose ANY legislative governmental
- intervention to stop this kind of constant assault on the viewing public,
- but instead asks these (in his own words) "obviously and wonderfully talented
- entertainers" to tone down a bit.
-
- Instead of using Dornan's examples, I will give you a few of my own observations
- which should even appeal to the most liberal Liberal... Consider the TV shows
- Cheers, Night Court, and Taxi. All were #1 rated TV shows, and all are
- extradorinarily written and entertaining. The actors are of the highest
- caliber and extremely talented, to say the least - and often are active in
- various liberal social agendas. Sam Malone sleeps with hundreds of women,
- depicted as bimbos (an afront to women, IMO) and sexually harasses the major
- women characters. What can you say about the character of Dan Fielding and
- the women he "dates". Louie DePalma is depicted as a lovable little guy, but
- he also happens to sexually harass Elaine Nardo in almost every show - and
- she is a single parent working two jobs to get by... Are these actors and
- writers of the shows incapable of finding other things to stress? I think
- so. Married with Children depicts parents who not only abuse eachother but
- their children. I do not deny the great humor in the shows or the talent
- involved in making them up... Whoopi Goldberg in "Sister Act" is a non-stop
- blasphemer - like religion or not, is this NOT an afront to any minority or
- majority of people who are religious? I can't count the number of TV shows
- and movies that depict those who serve our nation (gays and otherwise) in
- the armed forces as idiots.
-
- To you liberal hypocrites, his cause is wrong, I guess. Being such hypocrites
- doesn't help YOUR credability much, either.
-
- : What's really sad is that these vile and stupid extremist presentations of
- : so-called "conservative" views destroy any semblence of credibility. Even
- : reasonable, solid conservative principles and ideas get corrupted into
- : disgraceful expressions of hatred and ignorance.
- :
-
- Do the VERY liberal and politically active Whoopi Goldberg and Ted Danson
- represent your "so-called liberal" views? They destroy any semblence of
- your credability if you say "yes." How can anyone take Anita Hill's claims
- of sexual harassment seriously, for example, if saying "There is a pubic
- hair in my coke can" is a serious crime while doing and saying a LOT worse
- and glorifying it night after night on TV is ok... In spite of Sam Malone's
- obvious frequent and promiscuous sexual activity, I do not remember a single
- suggestion that the use of a condom (at least) is a good idea...
-
- : Are these New Right ignoramuses the ones to be speaking out for
- : Conservatism?
- :
-
- Supreme Court forbid that anyone who speaks against the "accepted" Old Left
- ignoramuses be listened to.
-
- : I would truly enjoy seeing either Limbaugh or Dornan in honest debate,
- : face to face with [most any other] live human. I'm betting neither could
- : last five minutes in a civil discussion.
- :
-
- If you want to see Dornan in honest debate, turn on C-SPAN. If you want to
- see Limbaugh, watch Pozner and Donahue, Donahue, various CNN shows, etc.
- Or listen to his show, where he takes on Liberal callers and most often
- gives them much more air time and demands honest intellectual debate from them
- than he does for his "dittoheads." It is SOOOO unfortunate that Limbaugh
- even appearing on a show like Donahue, sandwiched between shows about lesbians
- who like to beat eachother with chains lends such credability to the show.
- That kind of crap on TV is an afront to every honest hardworking gay person
- who does not deserve to be represented by such charicatures of your beloved
- extreme left.
-
- Have a nice day.
-
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