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Summary: Unofficial Summary for Thursday, Dec. 24, 1992
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Unofficial Summary of the Rush Limbaugh Show

for Thursday, December 24, 1992

by John Switzer

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please let me know. Thanks - [e-mail].

This unofficial summary is copyright (c) 1992 by John Switzer.
All Rights Reserved. These summaries are distributed on
CompuServe, GEnie, and the Internet, and archived on GEnie (NPC
Roundtable) and Internet (cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu).  Distribution
to other electronic forums and bulletin boards is highly
encouraged. Spelling and other corrections gratefully received.

Please read the standard disclaimer which was included with the
first summary for this month. In particular, please note that
this summary is not approved or sanctioned by Rush Limbaugh or
the EIB network, nor do I have any connection with them other as
a daily listener.

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December 24, 1992

LIMBAUGH WATCH

December 24, 1992 - It's now 52 days after Bill Clinton's
election and Rush is still on the air with 546 radio affiliates
and 207 TV affiliates, and his book has been on the NY Times
hardback non-fiction best-seller list for 15 consecutive weeks
and is currently number one on the list.

MORNING UPDATE

<<Today's Morning Update was originally broadcast Thursday,
September 10, 1992>>

Rush is accused of hating women, but all he does is tell the
nation what some women are doing, and thus he can't be blamed
when this stuff sounds ridiculous. In a story by Courtney
Leatherman in the July 1st issue of the Chronicle of Higher
Education, this year's annual meeting of the National Women's
Studies Association was supposed to "heal fractures that crippled
the organization after a large group of minority women staged an
angry walkout after the 1990 conference." The 1992 meeting's
theme was "Enlarging the Circle - the Power of Feminist
Education," and it started with a screening of the video "I Am
Your Sister."

The organization's president then urged the association's members
to find a common background. However, within a half-hour a
speaker had offended a lesbian member of the audience by making
"heterosexist" remarks. Rush marvels at this new word. Other
women complained that a white woman should not have been the
opening speaker if the conference's goal was to welcome back
minority women.

Meeting organizers had to also apologize to Jewish feminists for
scheduling a meeting on the Friday night sabbath. Eco-feminists,
who believe in "a feminist approach to environmental issues,"
were also upset that every meal served at the conference included
meat. Finally, one woman asked that at future meetings, attendees
should be asked to forgo hairspray and perfume which other
members find bothersome and offensive. This sort of story belongs
in MAD magazine or the National Lampoon, yet these events
actually happened, and Rush asks "you wonder why we laugh at
them?"

<<Rush is on vacation until January 4th, and thus today's show is
a "Best of Rush" show. The first hour of today's show was
originally broadcast as the first hour of the show on Monday,
June 15, 1992>>

FIRST HOUR

Items

o       Rush promises some "hip-deep analysis" of Bill Clinton's
speech to the Rainbow Coalition on Saturday. He calls it amazing
that Jesse Jackson should have any credibility left, and he will
link all this to the riots in Chicago, and the flak over rap
artists.

o       Dan Quayle is meeting Cardinal John O'Connor today, and
Rush comments that more and more people are speaking positively
of the Vice President.

o       Bo Snerdley is wearing "shades" today, and Rush wonders
why. Bo replies that it's summer. Rush, however, says that "it
makes you look devious, it makes you look deceitful, it makes you
look sinister, it makes you look mysterious, it makes you look
untrustworthy." Broadcast engineer Tony Lo Bianco comments that
Bo probably flew in from Chicago and is just trying to disguise
his identity.

o       A Des Moines woman who spent her entire pay check of $60
on lottery tickets returned to rob the store at gun point after
she won only $10. Rush "understands" how someone can blame the
store if they don't win the lottery.

o       Rush comments that EIB has gotten even more Super Soakers
over the weekend. However, he adds "those that come in today -
too bad, tough toenails, you had to have it in here by Friday to
get the mug. We have your Super Soaker, you get nothing!"

o       Houston livestock judges disqualified a steer from its
championship prize after they discovered the animal's 12-year old
owner injected air into it to improve its appearance. Rush thinks
this story sounds strangely similar to the false story put forth
by PETA that a New York duck farm was force feeding ducks so much
that many exploded. In reality, ducks being raised for pate are
being raised better than many humans, especially the homeless.

o       The family of a deceased man has sued two funeral homes
and a cemetery because the man was embalmed without permission,
and his casket was buried backwards in the grave. Opaline DuPyer
is suing the three Contra Costa County defendants for an
unspecified sum of money.

o       East Germans are upset that West Germans are trying to
ban nude sunbathing on Baltic Coast beaches. East Germans don't
want West German regulations imposed on their beaches, which have
allowed nude sunbathing, the "free body culture," since the early
1900s. Rush comments that the former Communist citizens should
just submit to "good old western values," especially as one West
German complained that "it's simply disgusting to see naked men
with beer bellies play volleyball." Rush, however, is bothered
that the West Germans are discriminating against "fat guys."

Of course, an important part of this issue is the ozone hole and
the negative effects all the extra ultra-violet radiation will
have on naked sunbathers. An American lawyer, though, supports
the practice after a visit in which a beautiful naked woman
emerged out of the sea in front of him; "it's an amazing
country," he stated.

*BREAK*

Item

o       Rush comments that he will be speaking at an ad
convention in Atlanta on Wednesday, and thus EIB will run a "Best
of Rush" show then. Bo Snerdley is already choosing the parts of
the show which will be included, and Rush comments that Bo looks
"mean" because he is wearing sunglasses and is not smiling.

Rush has been asked about whether he thinks if race is the number
one issue in America. About a year ago, he said "no," but now he
thinks he was wrong. The reaction to Clinton's remarks about
Sister Souljah this weekend indicate that race problems are the
primary issue of contention between Americans. Rush says that
Clinton was right about what he said - if a white person were to
say what Souljah says (i.e. that blacks should kill white
people), then that person would be tarred as another David Duke.

Rush recalls how the Washington Post did a feature story on
Sister Souljah in its entertainment pages, without criticizing in
the least her comments promoting violence between the races.
Souljah had stated after the LA riots "if black people kill black
people every day, why not have a week in which black people kill
white people? So if you're a gang member, and you would normally
be killing somebody, why not kill a white person?"

During his speech at the Rainbow Coalition, however, Clinton
tried to break away from the "Jesse Jackson liberal wing" of the
Democratic party by saying that Souljah's comments were "filled
with a kind of hatred that you do not honor." Clinton's remarks
came after Jesse Jackson's speech in which he stated with pride
that Sister Souljah had been an honored guest at the previous
night's program. When Clinton spoke about Souljah, Jackson was
"fuming - he sat there befuddled, totally taken aback, stunned."
This alone should show what Jackson has become - he has
sacrificed his religious roots and any connections he used to
have to the policies and methods of Martin Luther King, Jr.

Rush promises more on this after the break.

*BREAK*

Rush thinks it's clear that Clinton was trying to get noticed by
showing his willingness to challenge the core Democratic
constituency groups. This has worked, and Rush admits that
Clinton was right in what he said. Jesse Jackson and others have
reacted violently to Clinton's remarks.

Jackson said that he was "totally surprised" by Clinton's speech,
and stated that "the people who are here, the people who are
supporting Clinton, this time feel tremendous trauma and pain."
Rush wonders why - there's not justification for the Rainbow
Coalition to feel any trauma or pain; however, this attitude is
consistent with the civil rights leadership's defense of artists
like Sister Souljah and Ice-T who advocate violence and murder.

Jackson defended Souljah, saying that her comments had been
misunderstood; Souljah even claims that she's been misquoted,
although her interview was on tape. Jackson claimed that Souljah
"represents the feelings and hopes of a whole generation of
people," and that Clinton should apologize to her.

Ron Walters of Howard University in Washington claimed that
Clinton was trying to retain support, but at the same time show
that he was not "in the pocket of Jackson." Walters continued on
to say "but it was a miscue for Clinton to depress the black
vote. He is obviously going to need the black vote in a three-way
race." Walters compared Clinton's speech to Bush's Willie Horton
ad, and called it a "racial wedge."

Rush can't believe that Democrats are accusing another Democrat
of using a Willie Horton issue, even though it was the Democrat
Albert Gore who first used the Willie Horton issue in a 1988
campaign. (Gore, by the way, has sided with Fidel Castro and the
rest of the Third World in the Earth Summit.) Walters added that
he had expected the "Bush people to come out with a Willie Horton
strategy, and all of a sudden it comes out from the Democratic
ranks."

Democratic strategist Wayne Garrett said that Clinton "stubbed
his toe with this absolutely unnecessary gratuitous remark, and
could pay dearly for it. Jackson's blessing is worth millions of
votes." Rush says that it is about time Jackson becomes
irrelevant to major party politics. Jackson, for example, even
petitioned the UN to send in troops to Washington DC because the
residents don't have representation in Congress; nobody laughed
at this or criticized it out of the fear of alienating one part
of their constituency.

This is the problem with the Democrats - they are composed of a
lot of little constituency groups, and they dearly need the black
vote if they are ever going to win again nationally. This was the
whole point of the Clarence Thomas hearings - liberals did not
want blacks to realize that they have a chance at success outside
of the liberal plantation. This is why Jackson continues to
ignore the news that blacks in Queens have achieved income parity
with whites.

Rush suggests that Bill Clinton go even further and tell Jackson
that the Democratic party doesn't want the support of people who
agree with Sister Souljah and Ice-T. Ron Walters claimed that
Sister Souljah is an artist, and that "artists exaggerate
reality, and we shouldn't be stupid enough to take what they say
literally." He claimed that Souljah was only engaging in "street
talk" and that Clinton "didn't understand the terrain he was on."

Rush disagrees - "murder is murder," and there cannot be moral
relativism in this matter - advocating death is advocating death.
In a civilized society this sort of thing can't be accepted. Rush
is appalled by how Ice-T is not being condemned for advocating
the killing of cops, while K-Mart is being blamed for the death
of children for not selling Magic Johnson's book. Ice-T and
Sister Souljah, though, are "artists" and thus can advocate the
explicit deaths of others.

On top of all this, riots erupted in Chicago and New Jersey. The
New Jersey violence happened after a rap group didn't finish
their set, while the Chicago riots started after the Chicago
Bulls won the NBA championship. Obviously, Chicago needs more
government aid if this is the sort of thing that happens after a
basketball victory.

However, what happened in Chicago was a celebration, which was
exactly what the riots were in Los Angeles. Yet, there are those
who sanction this behavior because it's an "alternate life-
style"; the rest of the country must "understand this rage." Rush
would love to talk to anyone who disagrees with him on this, so
that he can see how they can possibly justify this violence.

*BREAK*

Rush knows that whites were involved in the Chicago riots, but he
slams his desk and says "but damn it, it's about time we got our
share. I am sick and tired of being frozen out of the freebies!
My white brothers are finally learning to get onboard the train,
that's all."

Rush adds that Jesse Jackson is now calling for NYC residents to
skip work, school, and shopping this Friday, June 19th, so as to
protest the Rodney King verdict. Jackson claims that by staying
home, members of the Rainbow Coalition can turn the day into a
day of "protest, healing, dialogue, and voter registration."

Jackson, though, knows full well that this kind of activity will
do no kind of healing whatsoever, and will instead exacerbate the
problem. This is what he's trying to do, of course, since he
knows he is losing - "these shouts and these demands and these
ideas are nothing more than the rantings of a child who is not
getting what he wants, and who hasn't gotten what he wants in a
long, long time."

Jackson is circulating fliers that advocate people to basically
stop living their lives this Friday - don't go to work, don't
spend any money, don't use the telephone, don't do anything but
go to one of his teach-ins. In other words, don't participate in
the "unfair" American society. Rush bets that Jackson is upset
that New York City hasn't burned yet, and now he is trying to
foment more rage. Rush hopes that NYC blacks will not participate
in this idiocy, and therefore help stop this insanity.

In the NY Daily News, this story about Jackson's call for a day
of non-participation is right next to a drive-by shooting that
has left several blacks dead. Rush wonders why Jackson is nowhere
to be found when it comes to addressing the issue of black-on-
black violence; similarly, why is Jackson ignoring the pay equity
for blacks and whites in Queens?

Obviously Jackson doesn't think that this kind of news is "good
for his cause." Blacks can't participate in America because then
they might realize that they can succeed without Jackson's help
or leadership. Rush tells all NYC blacks that doing what Jackson
wants this Friday will do nothing more than empower him; Jackson
is just a little baby crying because he can't get what he wants
at the ballot box.

*BREAK*

Rush promises an Animal Rights Update that will include a sad
story about a dog who is named after him. The dog will "go on
trial" this week, and may be put to sleep.

*BREAK*

<<The second hour of today's show was originally broadcast as the
second hour of the show on Monday, August 3, 1992>>

SECOND HOUR

Item

o       Rush cheers because "football is back, the balance has
returned! I love football!" The football season means that fall
is around the corner, temperatures will drop, and it's time to
get cozier; for Rush, though, this also presents another
challenge - find someone to get cozy with, but nonetheless he
looks forward to the season.

Cal Thomas has written a great column today about the ongoing
culture war. Thomas talks about a discussion of family values on
Good Morning America in which one guest gave his definition of
family values. Another guest, though, thought that you shouldn't
even try to define family values since it would "unfairly exclude
others." Thomas says that this discussion shows what is going
wrong with America - "the abandonment of an objective statement
of truth."

Rush agrees with this and says that this is the crux of the
culture war - whether there should be a fixed standard of values.
Thomas quotes G.K. Chesterton who writes that "when people stop
believing in God, the danger is not that they will believe in
nothing, but that they will believe in anything." This is what is
happening now.

Also, in the current political campaign, issues are no longer
debated according to their rightness or wrongness, but as to
whether they win in the polls. Thomas quotes Frances Schaeffer as
saying "pragmatism, that is, doing what seems to work without
regard to fixed principles of right or wrong, is largely in
control. In both international and home affairs, expediency, at
any price to maintain personal peace and affluence at the moment,
is the accepted procedure. Absolute principles have little or no
meaning in the place to which the decline of western thought has
come."

This mirrors what Rush has said about the debate going on over
who sets the limits on behavior and what those limits should be.
Thomas says much the same thing - "the current political debate
is about whose values, whose philosophy, whose moral vision will
prevail." He also advises that those who remember what family
values really are must challenge those who are trying to redefine
them, and show how "bogus" these redefinitions are.

Rush asked his dinner companions the other night about what they
thought family values were, and three ideas were consistently
mentioned - teaching children right from wrong, teaching children
responsibility for their own actions, and insisting on an
absolute morality. Morality has become muddled because people
have been ignoring these concepts and have been trying to define
morality as doing whatever you want to do, as long as you don't
"hurt" anyone else.

The problem is that there is a societal impact from what people
do, especially when you are talking about things like Jack
Kevorkian and his suicide machine. Most people know the basics of
right from wrong because their parents do care about them and do
teach them; however, these kids then go to school and end up in
environments without any moral foundation whatsoever. Thus,
people grow up believing that it's immoral to say that any
behavior is wrong.

Thomas' statement that what is wrong with America is the
"abandonment of an objective statement of truth" hits the mark,
and Chesterton's explanation that without God people will believe
in anything explain why some people end up worshipping the Earth
and the environment.

The discussion about family values is an attempt by people to
hold onto standards of right and wrong, of decency, and of
morality. Rush was at dinner last night when he ran into the
editor of his book. Rush offered her and her companion a ride
home, and he even gave up the "power seat" to allow them to sit
together in the back seat. When one of his guests remarked that
she liked the song playing on the radio, Rush turned up the
volume. The two women were amazed that Rush would be that
considerate, attentive, and polite. That these women could be
amazed by a decent act is something which Rush attributes to
living in New York for too long.

Thus there is a desire for a basic morality, simple decency, and
an understanding of right and wrong. These are not difficult
concepts, and the fact that right and wrong is even discussed as
it is in America today shows the basic conflict that exists.
People are afraid to say anything is wrong because they'll then
be attacked for trying to restrict someone else's behavior.

Cal Thomas' column is right on the mark, and Rush suggests his
audience take the time to find and read it; if nowhere else, the
column will be printed in a future Conservative Chronicle.

*BREAK*

There's a movement to "Free the LA Four"; these four men are
accused of beating to near death an innocent truck driver,
Reginald Denny. The attacks were captured on videotape, and it's
clear that a serious crime was committed. This was not a trivial
act, but something incredibly and clearly wrong. Thus, there must
be a trial and evidence presented to convict these guys.

There is no logic, no evidence, no plea that should be used to
free these suspects. If another riot ensues, then the military
should go in first thing to stop the violence. None of this is
hard to understand - you simply do the right thing, and if Rush
inflames these people, then so what? Rush is right and those
supporting the "Free the Four" movement are wrong.

It's ridiculous and irresponsible for other radio talk show hosts
and commentators to say that these criminals should be released
without a trial. The only reason for these people to say such
things is so that they will get noticed, and Rush doubts if they
truly believe these things in their hearts. "There is nothing
right about letting these guys go, and it should not be a matter
of discussion," states Rush. If the threat of civil unrest can
overrule the criminal justice system, then this shows how far
America's value system has deteriorated. If we let these four
guys go, then why should we pursue any criminals?

The matter is clear - wrong is wrong and right is right, and if
rioters decide that they want to burn down LA again, then massive
force should be used to restore and keep order. And Rush is, as
usual and forevermore, right.

*BREAK*

To underscore his comments from the previous segment, Rush plays
the bumper that has him saying "I'm right, I'm right" ad
infinitum. He adds that the idea that the "LA Four" should be
freed is so insane that it should be greeted with gales of
derisive laughter.

In related news, a billboard for a chain of Chinese food
restaurants, Wok Fast, says "maybe the Rodney King jury would
have deliberated longer if they hadn't been so sick of pizza."
Rush laughs at the idea, and the Los Angeles Times story says
that the point is not that consumers will laugh at the line or
think it is in good taste; the point is that the line will get
consumers to read the small print which says that Wok Fast will
deliver Chinese food.

Phone   Jody from Sarasota, FL

Jody is the President of a Florida bank, and he wants to address
Rush's comments on the economy and how bank regulation has
supposedly handcuffed the banking industry. Rush says that what
he has been hearing from both bankers and borrowers that existing
businesses are finding it harder and harder to roll over their
loans, in spite of having a spotless credit record. The banks are
refusing to make the loans because they are overextended in
commercial loans.

Rush understands the basic logic behind this - the commercial
real estate market is really built up, creating a glut of office
buildings. Thus, development should be slowed until this excess
has been used up during this period of correction. Jody says that
this is exactly his position. However, another lesson should also
be learned - the 80s approach to deregulation simply hasn't
worked. The 80s allowed banks a lot of freedom, and this has
resulted in record bank failures.

Jody is calling on a cellular phone and his voice keeps fading in
and out. Rush therefore puts him on hold, and has Bo take his
number so that EIB can call him back when he gets inside his
bank.

Phone   Phil from Escanaba, MI

Phil praises Dan Quayle for bringing the subject of family values
to the forefront of public discussion. He is tired of hearing all
of the negative remarks being made about Quayle and how he is
hurting the Republican ticket; he therefore would like Rush to
run a 900 poll which gets the audience's opinion on this.

Rush says that the reason he hasn't done this is because all of
this talk about Quayle being a burden is ridiculous and he
doesn't want to dignify it by taking it seriously. If Rush was
going to do such a poll he would do it on Hillary Clinton and how
much she is hurting Clinton's chances. Rush therefore pledges to
do a poll at some point which will ask the question "should Bill
drop Hillary?"

Phone   Bob from Atlanta, GA

Rush wonders who Perot will end up supporting and what the impact
will be. Rush says that Perot has already thrown his support to
the Democratic party, which has resulted in a temporary surge for
Clinton to 59% in the polls. However, this support will not last
for any great length of time.

Some people might disagree that Perot is supporting Clinton, but
the fact that Perot bailed out on the night of Clinton's
acceptance speech, plus the fact that Perot praised a revitalized
Democratic party, makes things clear. Rush says that many of
Perot's supporters are "Stepford children" who will do whatever
Perot wants them to do. Polls show that only about 11% of the
Perotnistas have gone to Bush.

This gives more evidence to the theory that Perot got into the
race to embarrass and destroy George Bush. Rush bets that Perot
is sitting in his office, smiling at the destruction he's caused
Bush. Some people even think that Perot is sitting out the race
right now so that he can save some money, and come back in after
Bush and Clinton have exhausted themselves. Rush doesn't think
Perot can do this with any credibility, but this speculation
shows that Perot isn't totally out of the picture yet.

*BREAK*

Phone   Jody from Sarasota, FL (continued)

Jody says he agrees with Rush that the economy is stumbling, but
bank regulations are not the cause. A lot of mainstream America
is doing fine and is not in trouble because their banks never
went "wild." These banks never funded a risky loan just because
they wanted the market share; they didn't pay above-market rates
for CD deposits and then use the money for speculative loans.

Rush asks about how existing businesses are finding it harder and
harder to get credit. Jody says that regulators are not
responsible for making it hard for businesses to get loans.
Instead, banks may have a large number of short-term loans that
have property as collateral. If the income being generated by
this property is less than what the bank would like, then banks
classify it as a risky loan.

Banks can afford to have only so many such loans; these loans are
still generating income, but having too many of them would not be
prudent. Thus, banks may decide not to renew such loans or refuse
to make new loans so as to reduce their exposure. In this case,
it doesn't matter if the loans stayed current of not. Rush says
that this gets to the root of the problem he wants to look at,
and he holds Jody over the break.

*BREAK*

Phone   Jody from Sarasota, FL (continued)

Rush asks about the customer who has never defaulted on a loan,
and whose business is still prospering, and yet still can't get
new loans. Jody says that if a business is prospering and doing
well, it can get a loan from any bank in the country. Rush says
that this is not what he's heard, but Jody says that you never
hear all sides of the equation. A guy's business may be doing
well, but he may have other properties that are doing poorly.

One of the reasons the prime rate is falling is because of the
lack of good loans that are being made. If good loans were
prevalent, then the interest rate would go back up because nobody
likes paying or getting 3 or 4% on their CDs.

*BREAK*

<<The third hour of today's show was originally broadcast as the
third hour of the show on Monday, June 22, 1992>>

THIRD HOUR

Items

o       The lines are jammed with Perot supporters <<Ross Perot
theme music starts>>, and Rush reiterates that he wants to have
polite conversations with his callers.

o       Catherine MacKinnon is now claiming that all foreplay is
rape because "taking rape from the realm of the sexual and
placing it in the realm of the violent, allows one to be against
rape without raising any questions about the extent to which the
institution of heterosexuality has defined force as a normal part
of the preliminaries."

MacKinnon is a law professor at the University of Michigan, and
she is upset that people like Susan Brownmiller are promoting the
idea that rape is a violent act and not a sexual act. MacKinnon
says that this idea allows people to ignore that rape occurs
during normal heterosexual foreplay.

Felix Rohatyn is a financier in NY investment firm, and he is a
"huge liberal Democrat with a capital L, capital I, and maybe a
capital B." Rohatyn's name has been mentioned by Jesse Jackson as
being one of the co-sponsors of his plan to "rebuild America."
Rush, however, is tired of hearing about the myth that America
needs to be rebuilt. Some neighborhoods are certainly in bad
shape, and some cities need some work, but the country is not
falling apart.

This is the same doom-and-gloom crisis mentality that has been a
staple of environmental socialists. Jackson says that America
needs to expand the job base, but this is exactly what happened
during the 80s. Rohatyn's plan, however, is to get $500 billion
as "seed money," and then turn it into a trillion dollars to
create jobs.

This is an idiotic idea - can the government really create jobs?
Is the country so bad off that it needs large-scale FDR-type
make-work programs? What's even worse about Jackson's plan,
though, is that it intends to raid pension funds, which are one
of the only solvent financial institutions in America today.
Jackson and Rohatyn, though, want to take the money in these
pension funds and use them to create make-work jobs; the funds
would allegedly be paid back by higher gasoline taxes. This is a
dangerous idea - the pension fund moneys belong to the people,
who contribute to these funds with every paycheck. Jackson,
though, is trying to get Perot to adopt this plan.

Clinton is trying his own approach - bash the rich, bash
achievement, and punish those who have money. He's going to
abandon his middle class tax cuts and instead tax the rich even
more. Thus, Clinton doesn't need Jackson's plan, which is why it
is being presented to Perot. Rohatyn is also a good friend of
Ross Perot, and he wants to be Treasury Secretary in the worse
way. This plan is nothing more than wealth transfer in the Great
Society tradition, and Rush thus hopes his audience will listen
whenever they hear about Rohatyn on TV.

Phone   Doug from Denver, CO

Rush asks Doug if Perot's investigation of Bush troubles him.
Doug isn't bothered at all, especially since Bush was in the CIA
and undoubtedly has already done his own investigations about
Perot and Clinton. He thinks that it would be foolish to assume
that candidates "go into battle without doing their homework on
their enemies."

This intrigues Rush because Perot's investigations started in
1986, long before his Presidential candidacy allegedly started.
Doug is certain that Perot was planning to run for President back
then, and he sees no problem with this since Bush undoubtedly was
planning to run for President before 1988. The difference,
though, according to Rush is that Bush never tried to create an
illusion about the origins of his campaign.

Rush wouldn't say that Perot was lying about his candidacy, but
rather this is part of an overall plan to manipulate the people
into giving him a mandate. If he gets elected he can go to
Congress and say that he has a mandate from the people to be
President. Doug agrees that Perot has had the hubris and
aspirations to be President for years, but Rush says that Perot
has claimed that he is running for President only because the
people want him to run.

Doug admits that Rush has got him cornered, and he also mentions
that a female radio talk show host on CSPAN last weekend
slandered Rush by saying "Rush Limbo can distort a fact like no
other." Rush laughs, and says "they're just a bunch of small-time
wannabes, possessed with a massive amount of jealousy and envy."
Rush adds that Perot supporters in Pittsburgh call themselves
"Perotgees."

*BREAK*

Phone   Patrick from Detroit, MI

Patrick isn't bothered by Perot's investigations of Bush either.
He wants to say, though, that it's obvious that Perot has been
thinking about the Presidency for some time, and that a lot of
people have been urging him to run for a long time. Thus, in his
mind Perot may have thought that he should have been running for
President, but his comment to Larry King about running only if
the people got him on the nation's ballots was just an off-the-
cuff comment. Perot didn't really think it would happen at the
time, but a groundswell of support changed his mind.

Rush disagrees - he doesn't think Perot would have gone on the
Larry King show and said such a thing without knowing that he had
a good chance of winning. Patrick thinks that Perot may have been
fully aware of the groundswell of support. Rush, though, says
that running for President is a major step in one's life, and
it's not something somebody casually decides without thinking
about it seriously, and without talking about it to his wife.
Rush, though, admits that this issue basically doesn't matter
anymore because his supporters really don't care. It's a fait
accompli, and Perot's people are more interested in their
candidate running, then in how he decided to run.

On the investigations Perot did of Bush, Patrick isn't too
bothered by them either. If Perot had thought Bush had done
something wrong, then he should be allowed to investigate it. The
issue of MIAs and POWs is near and dear to Perot's heart, and he
probably felt that Bush was standing in the way. Rush, though,
says that Perot went far beyond this simple subject.

The question remains what would have Perot done if he had found
some dirt on Bush? Patrick says that questions like these are
only speculation.

*BREAK*

Phone   Bob from Newark, OH

Bob gives Rush dittos, and Rush is amazed that a Perot supporter
is giving him dittos. Bob admits that he is a staunch Republican
who was elected to a local office as a Republican, but he is
planning on voting for Perot because he feels that Perot will
make changes. Bob doesn't care what these changes are - he thinks
Perot is a good businessman, and he is willing to take a chance
that Perot will do better than what exists now.

Bob is tired of hearing lies coming out from Washington, and he
doesn't think Perot can do any worse than the current status quo.
Rush asks if Bob would change his mind if Perot could be shown to
have lied. Bob answers that it would depend on what the lie was.
In any case, Bob thinks somebody has to stop the federal deficit;
he doesn't know how Perot will be able to do it, but since nobody
else has been able to cut the deficit, what difference does it
make if Perot can actually do it? Bob is willing to take the
chance that Perot can make some changes. It's easier to change
the President than it is to change all of Congress, which is
where the main problem lies.

Rush says that if Perot could be installed in place of all of
Congress, then Rush might support him; however, this is not going
to happen. Bob, though, thinks that Perot at least has the chance
of getting more action out of Congress than past administrations.
Rush wonders if there could be anything about Perot that would
make him start doubting Perot. Bob doesn't know what kind of
issue would make him start to question Perot or his credentials.

Bob is willing to take a chance on Perot, and he wonders why Rush
never says anything good about him. Rush says that he praised
Perot last week for his letter challenging Congress to give their
plan to fix the deficit first, before any of the Presidential
candidates come forward with their own plans.

Phone   Steve from Baton Rouge, LA

Steve isn't bothered about Perot's investigation on Bush, and he
would vote for Perot if the election were held today; however, he
will not do anything come November that would "let Bill Clinton
in at the back door." Steve thinks that every good businessman
investigates his adversary, and he would have to hear a lot more
about the investigations before they could change his mind.

Steve is a conservative Republican, but he thinks Perot will be
an agent for change. He is angry about governmental gridlock, and
how when one side comes out on an issue, the other side will
immediately take the opposite position. He thinks "Ross Perot
could do no worse than what is already there." Even if Perot is
in office for four years and is not effective, at least he will
have made some changes in the system.

Rush admits he is surprised at how many callers support Perot
because "he can't be any worse than what we've had." Rush had
thought that the support for Perot was more positive than this,
and he is bothered because things can get worse. Rush doesn't
want to defend the status quo, or politics as usual, and Bush
certainly has major credibility problems about taxes. However,
it's not correct to think that things are so bad in the US that
they can't get worse; a realistic appraisal would show that this
is not true. To say that things are so bad that they can't get
worse is an extremist position, and it opens the door to
extremist solutions that could include the voiding of rights.

Rush is also troubled that so many people feel that one person
can have such a great impact on their lives. People simply don't
realize how much power they really have in America; since you'll
never get a perfect candidate, you have to take control over your
own life. Rush understands supporting one's candidate, but things
can get a lot worse - for example, if the Supreme Court had not
been refilled by Reagan and Bush, liberalism certainly could have
a much bigger sway over the country now.

There's a basic disagreement in society right now over how people
should be cared for and how they should achieve the success and
well-being. Should a collective state assign and parcel out
happiness or should this be left up to individuals? This issue
will not go away just because Ross Perot is elected President;
there are still continuing pressures in Los Angeles, Chicago, and
elsewhere to create larger and larger governments. If Reagan and
Bush had not been elected, larger governments would be exactly
what we would have right now.

Again, when people think that things can't get worse, they are
more willing to support extremist solutions in order to "save"
America; America, though, is in no danger of being destroyed.

*BREAK*

Phone   Bert from Grover City, CA

Bert is a "third generation Democrat, bleeding-heart liberal,"
and she supports Perot because she agrees with him about how
America's elected representatives should not consider themselves
to be royalty and should not spend taxpayer money so freely. She
also thinks Perot's investigations were only a smart business
move.

Rush is "flat-out amazed" that a liberal Democrat would support
these types of investigations and he asks her about Nixon's
investigations. Bert says that Nixon's activities weren't out in
the open, but Rush points out that neither were Perot's. She,
though, says that from what she has heard that Perot used only
public information for his researches.

Bert mentions that the investigation into Bush's dealings with
Iraq before the Gulf War was also done using public information.
Rush comments that Perot's stand on the Gulf War should bother a
lot of his supporters. Perot's opinion that Bush went to war in
the Gulf to "prove his manhood" indicates how personal his
vendetta against Bush really is. Bush, however, was shot down
twice during WWII, and he didn't write any letters trying to get
out of the Navy as did Perot.

*BREAK*

 Rush comments that the night that Sister Souljah spoke at the
Rainbow Coalition, Jesse Jackson's sons, Jusef and Jesse Jr.,
both denounced Souljah themselves. It's amazing that Jackson
became upset only when Clinton denounced Souljah, too.

Phone   Norm from Jacksonville, FL

Norm not only supports Perot's investigations of Bush, but says
that it's "unfortunate" that he didn't find anything. "There's
probably something still there that he hasn't found," he states.
Norm is convinced that Bush and Clinton have done the same thing,
and both men are proven liars. Rush digresses to tell the joke
that Hillary Clinton did bake chocolate cookies for Bill while
they were in school, and she even put marijuana in them. Bill,
though, never swallowed the cookies.

Norm, though, doesn't think that there is much to choose from
right now, and he thinks that if Perot were to just spend his
four years as President sitting on a rocking chair, the country
would not be any worse off. He mentions the UN Covenant on Civil
and Human Rights, but Rush has run out of time.

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