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- From: hsims@vax.clarku.edu
- Subject: RE: Spoken Like a True ProLifer
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- Date: 29 DEC 92 16:52:47 GMT
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- In a previous article, vengeanc@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu wrote:
- >jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
- >>This is the same attitude I have seen from pro-lifers
- >>all along. They'll get arrested to save a life, but
- >>once the baby is born they could care less. Try to get
- >>some of these folks to support social programs like
- >>WIC or foodstamps. It's a hoot!
- >>
- >>Jared Dahl
- >>Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.
- >>Don't send e-mail - I won't get it.
- >
- >Blah blah blah.. how many times have we heard this ludicrous argument.
- >In taking a life a murderer forfeits his rights because he has WILLINGLY
- >with MALICE ended another person's life and given evidence that he cannot
- >be trusted to participate in society. Laws are designed not only to enforce
- >morals, but to teach them (Why does it seem like I keep saying this...).
- >The only way a law can teach is if the punishment fits the crime and
- >if it is executed SWIFTLY.
- >
- >An unborn baby has undertaken no conscious action of any kind, nor with
- >any malice, to threaten any member of society. Thus, without due process,
- >it is your contention that this baby be found guilty of nothing and
- >sentenced to death for it.
-
- Fetuses do pose a threat to members of society - the women that they are
- living inside of. Every pregnant woman faces a risk of death that is greater
- than 0.00.
-
- >The resistance you hear from "us" concerning social programs is not
- >a result of our lack of respect or concern for human life, rather it is
- >from the opposite, our concern for human life. Creating a welfare state
- >inhibits people's belief in themselves, promotes and reinforces their
- >feelings of helplessness rather than encouraging the desire to change their
- >situation by themselves, and punishes those who have accepted the
- >responsibility for their own destiny (ie. people who work).
-
- Really, those poor, homeless, and hungry children should just take
- responsibility for their lives and find a job. Funding programs such as
- WIC will just encourage infants and children to be lazy bums.
-
- >This is not meant to imply that certain situations don't exist where some
- >assistance is warranted, but rather that many more exist that would be
- >better solved by encouraging self-dependence rather than state-dependence.
-
- But when it comes to abortion, you would rather have the state take charge
- than let the pregnant woman make her own decision about her life and her body?
-
- >Edward Simmonds
-
- .... Heather.
-