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- From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
- Subject: Re: Prediction: Rush Limbaugh has hit his peak; He will
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- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:16:08 GMT
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- christopher stone (cstone@husc8.harvard.edu) wrote:
- : In article <schlegel.724352440@cwis> schlegel@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mark Schlegel) writes:
- : >prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
- : >
- : >>I see myself as a bleeding-heart liberal, but I used to love listening
- : >>to Rush Limbaugh's punchy right-wing rhetoric. No more! He now comes
- : >>across as an issue-less cry baby. For a guy of his type to e popular,
- : >>there must be an enemy. Clinton, by virtue of his middle-of-the-road
- : >>approach, is not a good target. Rush, all of a sudden, sounds vacuous
- : >>and stupid.
- : >
- : > How is Clinton "middle-of-the-road"? That's an example of how he's fooled
- : > the people and the press. He's not a centrist or a moderate, he's a
- : > total liberal.
- : >
- : I would like to see your evidence on this -- direct evidence, policy-wise,
- : that he is a Liberal. I will furnish some evidence he is a centrist.
- : 1) He supports NAFTA; 2) He did not outright oppose the Gulf War (see below)
- : 3) supports a capital-gains like tax cut for business under certain
- : circumstances 4) supports the death penalty...need I go on?
-
- 1) NAFTA only with environmental restrictions, which will severely limit the
- effectiveness of NAFTA. The whole purpose of NAFTA is to export low wage
- jobs to Mexico which can use the jobs in the first place. A couple of decades
- ago, Japanese workers made incredibly low wages and japanese businesses grew.
- After a period of growth, wages rose to the point where japan had to export
- the low paying jobs to korea and other pacific rim nations. Those nations
- are seeing wage increases also. We've had similar experience here. As the
- afluency of the workforce increases, the nations end up becoming more and more
- environmentally conscious. Japan today is one of the heaviest investors in
- environmentally safe technology. Unfortunately, you can't make a revolution
- out of evolution.
-
- 2) got any more humor to share?
-
- 3) capital gains tax cuts will certainly pass, since it is the correct thing to
- do. But, to pass it during Bush's term would have spurred economic growth and
- helped Bush win. Can you say sabotage?
-
- 4) today...
-
-
- : Of course, some of his positions are more liberal, but then that is the
- : definition of a centrist -- some of his positions are conservative, so
- : liberal, some moderate. As Gary Hart said, "I look neither left nor
- : right but forward."
- :
- : On a related note, why do conservatives insist upon bashing Congressional
- : liberals who opposed the Gulf War with the words, "Everybody in the whole
- : world supported the USA except the Congressional Democrats"? The rest
- : of the world was not going to bear the *costs* of the Gulf War if things
- : got nasty, but the USA was. The Congress was therefore justified in
- : being more critical than everyone else. Bill Clinton gave a statement
- : of tentative support for the war, and did not condemn it by any means.
- : This is again my definition of a moderate -- took one side (conservative,
- : pro-war) but tempered it with input from the other.
- :
-
- Another bit of humor? The rest of the world bore the bulk of the dollar cost
- of the war. Nobody condemned the war, just wanted to see the sanctions go on
- forever. Your definition of moderate is MY definition of WAFFLE. He was
- against the war before it started, yet said "I suppose II support the war"
- after it proved to be popular.
-
- : In spite of this, I do hope Rush stays on the air, as I enjoy his
- : commentary...sort of a "so bad it's good" thing.
- :
- : Followups to alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and alt.politics.clinton.
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