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- From: johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show
- Subject: Re: A Stolen Life, A Dying Soul
- Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh.tv-show
- Date: 28 Dec 1992 16:45:19 GMT
- Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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- References: <1h536uINNcpl@meaddata.meaddata.com> <1992Dec24.234313.26934@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> <nate.990@psygate.psych.indiana.edu>
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- In article <nate.990@psygate.psych.indiana.edu>, nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
- |> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
- |> >I read this and was sickened by it. All I've got to say is that's what
- |> >the death penalty is for. I honestly hope those three killers get the
- |> >gas chamber, no appeals.
- |>
- |> I read the original post, but my reaction was merely to be saddened.
- |> Perhaps my study of history has inured me to violence, but it's difficult
- |> for me to get too overwrought about individual cases like this one.
-
- This is not so much an individual case as an example of a continuing (and
- worsening) trend in our society. Even here, in the relatively quiet midwestern
- town of Dayton, Ohio, there has just recently been a rash of assaults by teens
- on other young people merely for the clothes they were wearing. One man was
- shot in the back by a teenager after he complied with demands for his jacket
- and shoes. I did a Nexis search, and found the following ABC news transcript
- of a November 24 story about Melvin's murder:
-
- PETER JENNINGS: From San Jose, California, tonight, one example of an
- alarming rise in teenaged violence. Consider this: nationwide, the number
- of juveniles arrested for murder has nearly doubled in the past decade. In
- San Jose, this week, an 18 year old boy pleaded not guilty to charges that
- he and two companions murdered an eight year old. ABC's Tom Foreman is in
- San Jose.
-
- TOM FOREMAN: {POLICE / PHOTO} Even police were shocked when they arrived at
- the apartment where Melvin Ancheta had been left home alone with a cold.
- The eight year old boy was lying on the floor, his mouth taped shut. He had
- been stabbed, hacked with a meat cleaver and strangled to death.
-
- SARGEANT DENNIS LUCA: They had a hard time killing him. They thought they
- killed him upstairs. They brought him downstairs and they had to finish
- killing him downstairs.
-
- DENISE THORP / NEIGHBOR: Everybody's been crying. It's just something you
- don't expect to happen to an eight year old.
-
- TOM FOREMAN: {NEWSPAPER ARTICLES} But the bigger shock was yet to come.
- Police charged three teenaged friends of the victim in the murder - a 15
- year old, a 16 year old and an 18 year old. {SUSPECT} Police say Melvin
- trusted them enough to let them in the front door, then they stole 100
- dollars worth of property and killed him because he was a witness. For San
- Jose, it is a horrifying example of growing teenaged violence.
-
- MARC BULLER / DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY: We never used to call juveniles
- sociopaths. Now that word's coming up all the time.
-
- TOM FOREMAN: {KIDS' BASKETBALL GAME} Melvin's murder was not an isolated
- incident. Violent crimes committed by teenagers increased 25 percent here
- in the past year. Many blame gangs.
-
- TEENAGE BOY: I think it's getting worse every day because everyone wants to
- be like someone that's bigger than them. They want to be like those gangs.
-
- TOM FOREMAN: {GIRL WITH MOM} But even nongang members, like the suspects in
- this case, are being swept into the violence. Now, Melvin's playmates dream
- of killers outside their doors.
-
- ROSA RAMIREZ / NINE YEARS OLD: Like, he's out there and we're going out to
- play and he's right there at the door and he's just, like, trying to stab us
- with a knife.
-
- TOM FOREMAN: {FUNERAL} It will be a long time before this town comes to terms
- with Melvin's murder. Few here have any clue how to deal with the kind of
- teen violence that killed him. Tom Foreman, ABC News, San Jose.
-
- By the way, it was not the 18-year-old who actually killed Melvin. It was the
- 15-year-old. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty for the 18-year-old,
- and to try the 16-year-old (who was the lookout and had posession of the stolen
- items) as an adult, but the worst that can happen to the 15-year-old is that he
- will be held in a juvenile center until he is 25.
-
- What strikes me about this story is the common theme it shares with the Bob
- Greene article. The closing line, "Few here have any clue how to deal with the
- kind of teen violence that killed him," hauntingly echoes Greene's statement
- that "unless we can figure out a way to cure the dying national soul, we might
- as well just turn out the lights and say a prayer on our way out, because it's
- over." Personally, I think Rush hit the nail on the head in his monologue
- about this: life has been cheapened in our culture for the sake of such things
- as entertainment and choice, and this is only the logical result.
-
- |> >Call me crude, but something must be done.
- |>
- |> I think that your gut reaction may lead you to wish for something less
- |> than purely poetic justice. IMHO the most appropriate thing that could be
- |> done would be to throw those three guys and a case of A1 sauce into a cell
- |> with Jeffery Dalhmer. (There you go, Simon, you weren't nearly as crude
- |> as me)
-
- Mega-dittos.
-
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