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- From: stegner_g@cubldr.colorado.edu
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- Subject: Re: Soul of the Republican Party
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- Date: 22 Dec 92 00:48:33 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.231710.20966@netcom.com>, mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
- > In article <1992Dec20.165342.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> stegner_g@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
- >>As regards your statement on separation of church and state, If George
- >>Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin could hear you now,
- >>they'd all be turning in their graves. The clause stating that "there
- >>shall be a clear separation of church and state..." was intended exactly
- >>to prevent people like you from imposing your morality on the rest of us.
- >
- > Just where is this clause stating that "there shall be a clear
- > separation of church and state..."? It is nowhere in the
- > Constitution. The word "church" does not appear anywhere in the
- > constitution. The only two places were religion is mentioned are
- >
- > (1) Article VI Section 3, "... no religious test shall ever be
- > required as a qualification to any office or public trust under
- > the United States."
- >
- > (2) Ammendment 1, " Congress shall make no law respecting an
- > establishment of religion, OR PROHIBITING THE FREE EXERCISE
- > THEREOF..."
- >
- > (Fanatical, intolerant anti-Christians conveniently "forget" the
- > free-exercise part of the Bill of Rights.)
-
- The extracts from the Constitution you quote have been unquestionably
- interpreted to mean "a clear separation of church and state." I stated my case
- incorrectly when I said it was a clause in the Constitution as such.
- Nevertheless, if religion cannot be a litmus test for qualification to any
- office (this doesn't just mean Congressional office, this broadly applies to
- any form of public employment), it also follows that religious establishments
- cannot use the government to impose moralistic legislation on the American
- people. The framers of the Consitution clearly intended for the political
- sphere to be negotiated in what people sometimes call "the real world" and for
- religion to be an individual's personal conviction, for which that person may
- exercise freely without government interference (as you so eloquently quote in
- CAPS above).
-
- These capitalized words are evidently the PART of Amendment One which strike
- your emotional chords the most - not surprisingly, since most Christians (if
- you are one, which I cannot assume, can I?) use that six-word phrase to justify
- doing things that go way beyond the mere exercising of the religion - such as
- composing parts of the 1992 Republican Party Platform.
-
- I am not a fanatical, intolerant anti-Christian, nor do I practice witchcraft,
- kill children, turn into a lesbian, or spend my spare time destroying
- capitalism.
-