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- From: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
- Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
- Subject: Re: Rush Butchers Facts for his own Agenda
- Summary: Media Bias
- Message-ID: <1196@bug.UUCP>
- Date: 20 Dec 92 17:10:28 GMT
- References: <1992Dec2.020917.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> <1568@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>
- Reply-To: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
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- In article <1568@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson) writes:
- >This "liberal media" thing you Limbots are into is really strange.
- >It's probably true that a plurality of journalists are liberal to some
- >extent,
-
- No, a clear majority are liberal (left of center), as shown by any of a
- dozen polls over the years.
-
- >but I've seen no evidence that this bias tends to show through in
- >their work;
-
- Then you haven't looked. The evidence is overwhelming and well documented.
- See "And That's the Way It Isn't: a reference guide to media bias", by L.
- B. Bozell III & B. H. Baker, 1990.
-
- >in fact, the bias on most editorial pages I've seen around the country
- >is right-wing.
-
- When Rush or I, or in fact, most people, talk about media bias, we
- aren't talking about the editorial page, or things marked as commentary
- or opinion, but rather, what is called "news". Nor are we talking about
- papers around the country, but the major national media.
-
- >This makes sense, when you realize that most publishers and editors
- >are Republicans.
-
- Where did you get this idea? Document it please.
-
- >Has it occured to any of you people that Bush got more negative
- >coverage than Clinton because he was an incompetent, do-nothing
- >president running a comically inept campaign?
-
- I'll agree with your description of Bush (to some extent) and so would
- many conservatives, even in print (see the November 30, 1992 issue of
- "National Review", especially the graph on page 40 which show the
- unemployment rate was flat at less than 5.5% until Bush breaks his
- no-new-tax pladge, when it instantly starts climbing).
-
- >Do you think the press should strive to make both candidates look equal
- >even when one of them isgiving intelligent, well-reasoned speeches
- >and the other is shreiking frantically about "Bozo" and "The Ozone
- >Man"?
-
- No, the press shouldn't be striving to make them look anyway at all.
- They should be simply reporting what they said, or telling us their bias
- up front.
-
- While I won't defend Bush's campaign, Clinton's wasn't as intelligent as
- you make it sound.
-
- >Face it, gang- The Bush-meister cut his own throat by going stridently
- >negative, allowing Clinton to appear more presidential than the
- >president, and catering extensively to the worst kind of far-right
- >nutballs- in his rhetoric, at least, if not in his actions.
-
- Who is blaming Bush's loss on the media? Not Rush. Not I.
-
- As for your analysis of why Bush lost, if Bush catered extensively to the
- far-right, then why were they so unhappy with him? Remember the primaries?
- That wasn't some moderate (which is what Bush is) consistently taking 25%
- of the vote from Bush. It was Pat Buchanan, who has been called many
- things, but moderate isn't one of them. If Bush catered extensively to the
- far-right, why did "National Review" have so much bad to say about him.
- Read the issue after the 1990 budget deal, or most issues after (e.g.,
- "Darman's Disaster -- Bush's Responsibility", National Review, December 17,
- 1990), especially those during the campaign. Bush wasn't pleasing the
- far-right.
-
- Bush lost because he broke his only specific campaign vow (no new taxes).
- He lied and then had the gall to campaign on character. More generally, in
- 1988, he campaigned on Reagan's record. He was going to be Reagan II. He
- didn't govern that way (under Bush, domestic spending increased
- drastically, as did government regulation and the number of government
- regulators), and it cost him his job. His campaign boiled down to: he
- isn't as bad as the Democrats, and his only pledge or vision of the future
- was to do less than what the Democrats wanted to do. That isn't enough.
-
- >Better luck next time with Kemp, who seems intelligent and thoughtful,
- >and should present a much better prospect.
-
- While I would agree, do you think Bush is not intelligent and not
- thoughtful?
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- orstcs!opac!bug!stevef I am the NRA Steven R. Fordyce
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