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- From: BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ)
- Subject: Re: Capital Punishment.
- In-Reply-To: triley@weber.ucsd.edu's message of 20 Dec 1992 06:52:44 GMT
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:16:55 GMT
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- In <1h157sINNore@network.ucsd.edu> triley@weber.ucsd.edu writes:
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- > In article <BzJ3vt.I7L@nic.umass.edu> BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ) writes:
-
- > >I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was alt.radlib.revolutionary.wannabe.
- > >
- > >Let's educate Miz Riley on the subject of rights:
- > >
- > >Any "rights" people have exist only as agreements between individuals and
- > >other individuals (contracts) or individuals and institutions (laws) not
- > >to hinder each other's behavior. When one side of the agreement is broken
- > >(e.g., you fail to pay your rent, you kill somebody), the other side may
- > >then, with moral impunity, default on its end of the agreement (the landlord
- > >may evict the tenant, the government may cease to protect the "rights" of
- > >a criminal).
- > >
- > >A summation of the Heintzian Doctrine of Rights:
- > >
- > >Criminals got none.
- > >
- > >Fry'em.
- > >
- > >- Brad
- > >
- > >bpheintz@phobos.ucc.umass.edu
- > >Your mother's an astronaut.
- >
- > how quaint...another psychotic rich kid with a simpleton's picture
- > of society. y'know, hobbes, the social contract and the state of
- > nature were all debunked a long time ago--perhaps you ought to read
- > some more social theory before you set your apparently quite
- > thorough knowledge of fascist state theory up as "the way things
- > are". With reactionaries like you to "educate" the rest of us, the
- > swastika oughtta be flyin' high any day now. Thanks for you lecture
- > in infantile societal analysis, but no thanks.
- >
- > t
- >
- Miz Riley -
-
- I was baiting you, purposely looking to draw that response.
-
- First off, I am not a rich kid. I spent the better part of my childhood
- well below the poverty line as the child of a single mother. However,
- through my own efforts, (yes, I do believe in the supremacy of the
- individual) I have bettered my lot, and I plan to make it better still
- in the future through THE ACCUMULATION OF LARGE AMOUNTS OF WEALTH AND
- INDIVIDUAL POWER. (Did you cringe, Riley? Good.)
-
- I am sure that your intentions are for the best, Miz Riley, constantly
- striving for a society where all are equal, as equally *dirt fucking poor*
- as my dear mother was. But then, in your society, everyone would be on
- welfare, yes?
-
- Speaking of the social pictures of simpletons, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, and Mao
- were all recently and quite soundly debunked in many nations, including
- the ex-USSR and the PRC. (That's "People's Republic of China," in case
- you're not up on your geography, Riley.) But I'm sure that if there had
- been enough blathering radlibs like yourself to "educate" them, the
- grand experiments in Human Rights and Better Living could have been saved.
-
- -Brad
-
- P.S. Liberty and Equality are mutually exclusive, and the revolution ain't
- coming anytime soon. :)
-
- P.P.S. What's six blocks long and eats potatoes? The line in front of a
- Moscow butcher.
-
- *=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
- Illuminatus Primus 1: If all are one, all violence is masochism.
- Illuminatus Primus 2: If all are one, all sex is masturbation.
-
- bpheintz@phobos.ucc.umass.edu
- Your mother's an astronaut.
-