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- | THE UNOFFICIAL FAQ FOR alt.cyberpunk (part 1/2) |
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- :::::updated: 1Jan93
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- Contents:
- |
- | a. Introduction/disclaimer/editors notes
- | b. Abbreviations and TLAs
- | 1. What is Cyberpunk? (definitions and interpretations from alt.cp)
- | 2. Cyberpunk melding with other subcultures
- | 3. Required Reading
- | 4. What is CyberPunk music?
- | 5. CyberPunk Authors on the Net (Gibson's Email Address...Not)
- | 6. More info on-line
- | 7. Agrippa: A Book of the Dead
- | 8. Sterling's latest stuff
- | 9. Gibson's next book
- | 10. Gibson goes to the movies! Neuromancer?? Alien^3?? More??
- | 11-16. Alt.CP.FAQ (2/2): Cyberpunk Resource Lists
- |_____________________________________________________________________________
-
-
-
-
- | a. Introduction and disclaimer
- |_________________________________
-
- First off, welcome to the unofficial alt.cyberpunk FAQ (Frequently
- Asked Questions guide). This file should give you some broad idea of what
- alt.cyberpunk is about, and hopefully some idea of what CyberPunk is about.
-
- By no means am I authorized to write such a file. I am just one avid
- fan of cyberpunk and the related subculture. I am not an author, publisher, or
- anything like that, so please take that into consideration when reading this
- file.
- - ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu
- [alt.cp.faq originator]
-
- Comments from current editor:
- - Tim Oerting
- [space2@hardy.u.washington.edu]
-
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Latest News Flash:
- ********** FTP Site ************
- I have gotten an ftp site setup and although I only have under a
- Meg available for this.. it will make it helpful for those who want the
- latest FAQ and other stuffs. There is a README file which you should get
- first, as it explains what each of the files are.
-
- Most importantly where is it?
- Site: ftp.u.washington.edu
- Dir: /public/alt.cyberpunk
- --------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- As usual, I am still trying to add stuff to the FAQ so if you run accross
- anything good to add just send it on my way and I'll try to find a good spot
- for it!
-
- I would like to acknowledge those who have given assistance in the form of
- comments, additions, or whose postings I have gleaned info from for this
- edition as well as those who have given stuffs for the ftp site.
- Keep the info coming!
- Thanks to you all...
-
-
-
- | b. Abbreviations and TLAs
- |_____________________________
-
- (included for the sake of completion, I guess...)
-
- :) Smiley - usually denotes sarcasm or joking
- A^3 Aliens 3
- bb bOING bOING
- BB "
- BC Burning Chrome (Gibson's collection of short stories)
- BTW By the way
- BS Bruce Sterling [or the old standard......:)]
- CP Cyberpunk
- CZ Count Zero (a Gibson novel)
- DE The Difference Engine Gibson & Sterlin novel)
- FAQ Frequently Asked Questions
- FLA FrontLine Assembly (industrial musical group)
- IMHO In my [humble / honest ] opinion
- IMnsHO In my not so [humble / honest] opion
- MLO Mona Lisa Overdrive (a Gibson novel)
- MONDO Mondo 2000 Magazine
- M2000 "
- M2 "
- M2K "
- OAV Original Animation Video
- SRL Survival Research Labs
- T2 Terminator 2
- TLA Three-Letter Acronym
- VR Virtual Reality
- WG William Gibson
-
-
- | 1. What is Cyberpunk?
- |________________________
-
- Inevitably after reading alt.cp for awhile, you will encounter posts
- where the author argues with some other party about a definition of cyberpunk.
- Cyberpunk is a new movement, a new subculture, thus it has no set definition.
- To get some idea of "just what is cyberpunk?" we'll examine what the leaders
- of this movement and the contributors to alt.cyberpunk would give as their
- definitions:
-
- ---
-
- "CYBERPUNK. THE ATTITUDE. GET IT."
- -a page out of Mondo 2000
-
- ---
-
- A CONVERSATION BETWEEN WILLIAM GIBSON AND BRUCE STERLING:
- [lifted from FAD Magazine, #26, Spring 1992, pages 40-41 w/o permission]
- [WG and BS interviewed by Marjan]
-
- Bruce Sterling: Bruce Bepkie, who wrote a short story called 'CYBERPUNK'
- [coined the term]; he's a moderately known science fiction writer. But the use
- of Cyberpunk as a literary critical term started by a guy called Gardner
- Dozois, the editor is Isaac Asimov's Science Fiction magazine now. He's also a
- well-known critic. He wrote an article in the Washington Post about Cyberpunk
- which mentioned my name and GIBSON, JOHN SHIRLEY, RUDY RUCKER, some of our
- crowd;- that stuck. This was around 1983 or so.
-
- William Gibson: He was aiming to do that as early as 1981, cuz that's when I
- met you.
-
- BS: We've had lots of names. Ever since we started people have been giving us
- one kind of title or another. I had a list of like a dozen once; Radical Hard
- SF, Techno Punk, 80's Wave, Outlaw Technologists...
-
- WG: They've used them all up, so now people in England are starting to come up
- with new names. They have like Techno Goths, Techno Goth fiction.
-
- FAD [magazine]: How would you define Cyberpunk?
-
- BS: I always thought it was the realm where the computer Hacker and the Rocker
- overlap. High Tech having its impact on Bohemia.
-
- FAD: Sort of like sex, drugs and Rock and Roll with computers?
-
- BS: More or less. Bohemia is an old thing, and Science Fiction is an old
- thing, and every once in awhile they just overlap. They're both products of
- industrial society, it's a very natural thing it's not very far-fetched it's
- very functional. It's hard to say whether we invented these people or these
- people invented us. You want to look at what Cyberpunk has become, read 'MONDO
- 2000'. It's just as demented and just as strange. But it's very much a
- happening scene, it actually gives people something they really need.
-
- FAD: [to Gibson] And how would you define it?
-
- WG: (Long pause) I can't. (Laughs) Somebody once asked Jimmy Page what he
- thought of Heavy Metal, and he said, I didn't call it that when I invented it.
-
- FAD: What did you call it?
-
- WG: I didn't call it anything.
-
- [Note: I *highly* recommend this article if you can find a copy of the
- magazine. It's called FAD and is a SF-based style-rag (like Details was before
- it went glossy). FAD, Po Box 420-656, San Francisco, CA 94142. $3.95 / issue]
-
- -----------
-
- [Cyberpunk as seen through the "snake-eyes" of Tom Maddox comes from an abridged
- [version of his essay: "After the Deluge: Cyberpunk in the '80s and '90s"
- [
-
- (The essay was printed in the volume _Thinking Robots, an Aware
- Internet, and Cyberpunk Librarians_, edited by R. Bruce Miller and Milton T.
- Wolf, distributed at the Library and Information Technology Association meeting
- in San Francisco, during the 1992 American Library Association Conference.)
-
- In the mid-'80s cyberpunk emerged as a new way of doing science
- fiction in both literature and film. The primary book was William Gibson's
- _Neuromancer_; the most important film, _Blade Runner_. Both featured a hard-
- boiled style, were intensely sensuous in their rendering of detail, and engaged
- technology in a manner unusual in science fiction: neither technophiliac (like
- so much of "Golden Age" sf) nor technophobic (like the sf "New Wave"), cyberpunk
- did not so much embrace technology as go along for the ride.
-
- However, this was just the beginning: during the '80s cyberpunk
- _spawned_, and in a very contemporary mode. It was cloned; it underwent
- mutations; it was the subject of various experiments in recombining its
- semiotic DNA. If you were hip in the '80s, you at least heard about cyberpunk,
- and if in addition you were even marginally literate, you knew about Gibson.
-
- [. . .]
-
- [In the 80s] The boundaries between entertainment and politics, or between
- the simulated and the real, first became more permeable and then--at least
- according to some theorists of these events--collapsed entirely. Whether we
- were ready or not, the postmodern age was upon us.
-
- [. . .]
-
- Anyone who was watching the field carefully had already noticed stories
- such as "Johnny Mnemonic" and "Burning Chrome," and some of us thought that
- Gibson was writing the most exciting new work in the field, but no one--least of
- all Gibson himself--was ready for what happened next. _Neuromancer_ won the
- Hugo, the Nebula, the Philip K. Dick Award, Australia's Ditmar; it contributed
- a central concept to the emerging computer culture ("cyberspace"); it defined
- an emerging literary style, cyberpunk; and it made that new literary style
- famous, and [. . .] even hip.
-
- [. . .] Along with _Neuromancer_, _Blade Runner_ together set the boundary
- conditions for emerging cyberpunk: a hard-boiled combination of high tech and
- low life. As the famous Gibson phrase puts it, "The street has its own uses for
- technology." So compelling were these two narratives that many people then and
- now refuse to regard as cyberpunk anything stylistically and thematically
- different from them.
-
- Meanwhile, down in Texas a writer named Bruce Sterling had been
- publishing a fanzine (a rigorously postmodern medium) called _Cheap Truth_;
- all articles were written under pseudonyms, and taken together, they amounted
- to a series of guerrilla raids on sf. [. . .]
-
- Gibson and Sterling were already friends, and other writers were
- becoming acquainted with one or both: Lew Shiner, Sterling's right-hand on
- _Cheap Truth_ under the name "Sue Denim," Rudy Rucker, John Shirley, Pat
- Cadigan, Richard Kadrey, others, me included. Some became friends, and at the
- very least, everyone became aware of everyone else.
-
- Early on in this process, Gardner Dozois committed the fateful act of
- referring to this group of very loosely-affiliated folk as "cyberpunks." At the
- appearance of the word, the media circus and its acolytes, the marketers, went
- into gear. Cyberpunk became talismanic: within the sf ghetto, some applauded,
- some booed, some cashed in, some even denied that the word referred to anything;
- and some applauded or booed or denied that cyberpunk existed _and_ cashed in
- at the same time--the quintessentially postmodern response, one might say.
-
- [. . .]
-
- Literary cyberpunk had become more than Gibson, and cyberpunk itself
- had become more than literature and film. In fact, the label has been applied
- variously, promiscuously, often cheaply or stupidly. Kids with modems and the
- urge to commit computer crime became known as "cyberpunks," in _People_
- magazine, for instance; however, so did urban hipsters who wore black, read
- _Mondo 2000_, listened to "industrial" pop, and generally subscribed to techno-
- fetishism. Cyberpunk generated articles and features in places as diverse as
- _The Wall Street Journal_, _Communications of the American Society for
- Computing Machinery_, _People_, _Mondo 2000_, and MTV. Also, though Gibson was
- and is often regarded with deep suspicion within the sf community, this ceased
- to matter: he had become more than just another sf writer; he was a cultural
- icon of sorts, invoked by figures as various as William Burroughs, Timothy
- Leary, Stewart Brand, David Bowie, and Blondie, among others. In short, much of
- the real action for cyberpunk was to be found outside the sf ghetto.
-
- Meanwhile, cyberpunk fiction--if you will allow the existence of any
- such thing, and most people do--was being produced and even became influential.
-
- [. . .]
-
- Also, various postmodern academics took an interest in cyberpunk. Larry
- McCaffery, who teaches in Southern California, brought many of them together in
- a "casebook," of all things, _Storming the Reality Studio: A Casebook of
- Cyberpunk and Postmodern Science Fiction_. Many of the academics haven't read
- much science fiction; they're hard-nosed, hip, and often condescending; they
- like cyberpunk but are deeply suspicious of anyone's claims for it. But
- whatever their particular views, their very presence at the party implies a
- certain validation of cyberpunk as worthy of more serious attention than the
- usual sf, even of the more celebrated sort.
-
- [. . .] By the end of the '80s, people who never liked it much to begin with
- were announcing with audible relief the death of cyberpunk: it had taken its
- canonical fifteen minutes of fame and now should move over and let something
- else take the stage.
-
- [. . .] However, Cyberpunk had not died; rather, like Romanticism and
- Surrealism before it (or like Tyrone Slothrop in _Gravity's Rainbow_, one of the
- ur-texts of cyberpunk), it had become so culturally widespread and undergone so
- many changes that it could no longer be easily located and identified.
-
- [. . .]
-
- Cyberpunk came into being just as information density and
- complexity went critical: the supersaturation of the planet with systems
- capable of manipulating, transmitting, and receiving ever vaster quantities of
- information has just begun, but (as Benedikt points out, though toward
- different ends), _it has begun_. Cyberpunk is the fictive voice of that
- process, and so long as the process remains problematic--for instance, so long
- as it threatens to redefine us--the voice will be heard.
-
- Tom Maddox
-
- -----------
-
- More on cyberpunk from: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu
-
- "The sky above the port was the color of television, tuned to a dead channel"
- :::::opening lines of Neuromancer
-
- Asking someone to define Cyberpunk is like asking someone to define art. Each
- person has their own ideas about what art is, what constitutes art and what
- doesn't. Yet we all still know art when we see it. The same is true for
- Cyberpunk - each cyberpunk has their own definition for it, yet common threads
- remain. In basic terms, these might be definied by an emphasis on
- individualism and technology (both in the present and in the future - and in
- the past as in The Difference Engine [a book by Gibson & Sterling]).
-
- So what seperates cyberpunk from other types of sci-fi? Generally, cyberpunk
- occures in the not-so-distant-future. It generally occurs on earth, in a time
- where technology is prominent. Characters are generally "average Johnny
- Mnemonics" - not some fantastic hero with lots of virtue and a blinding smile.
- Cyberpunk revels in high-tech low-lifes, so you can expect to see lots of crime
- and back-stabbing and drugs and such. These are the basic elements of
- Gibsonesque CP (cyberpunk) - we've all seen it before in movies such as Blade
- Runner and TV Shows like Max Headroom.
-
- In many cases, it appears as if our world is evolving into a classic cyberpunk
- setting: the rise of post-zaibatsu Japan with it's monopoly on technology,
- American cities developing into the "sprawl" (basically just large,
- mega-cities), drugs and crime are predominant in some cultures, and we thrive
- and survive on technology. So, it isn't too hard to see how cyberpunk evolved
- from being just a literary movement into a growing sub-culture - industrial and
- post-industrial aspects of the culture, virtual reality, rave parties,
- nootropics, computer hacking - they're all aspects of our culture, they all
- would fit nicely into a Gibson novel, and they all exist *now*.
-
- So, what makes a cyberpunk? If you already knew all this stuff, and you're
- laughing at my generalities and inconsistencies, then you're definitely a
- cyberpunk. If you're a techno-junkie or an info-junkie, than you'd probably
- consider yourself a cyberpunk. Basically, if you live in a world in the
- not-so-distant-future, ahead of the masses (the masses being guys named Buford
- who sit out in front of their trailer homes in lawn chairs sipping a Bud and
- watching the Indy 500 on an old tv), then you could probably safely consider
- yourself a cyberpunk. It's a spectrum, though - I mean, it's kind of like if
- Micahelangelo had an assistant, he would probably not consider the assistant an
- artist. Yet to his friends and family, that assistant may seem like a great
- artist. I consider myself a cyberpunk compared to the masses that walk the
- halls of my school, yet at a virtual reality conference in the presence of the
- likes of Jaron Lanier, Gibson, John Perry Barlow, Timothy Leary, RU Sirius,
- etc. I would probably be more hesitant in labeling myself a true cyberpunk.
- But one the beauties of cp is that it is still somewhat elitist to an extent:
- members of the community realize that we who walk on the fringes of culture
- need to hold each others' hand until the masses join us - the communal
- atmosphere, at times, can be seen as similair to the early hippie movement of
- the late 50's/early 60's.
-
-
-
- | 2. Cyberpunk melding with other subcultures
- |______________________________________________
-
- In recent years, the media and fans of cyberpunk literature have taken
- cyberpunk from a literary movement to a growing subculture. Look around you:
- 'cyber-' is everywhere.
-
- The word 'cyberpunk' as an adjective often refers to one who uses a
- computer to infiltrate ("hack" or "crack" if you prefer) systems they should
- not be in (or at least, they don't have regular access to that system). Some
- use 'cyberpunk' in conjunction with computer hacking to mean "people who
- destroy data". Others use it to mean "people who liberate information". It
- all just depends on your particular views on the subject. At any rate, this
- use of the word 'cyberpunk' comes from the Deck Cowboys of Gibson novels.
-
- Basically, any growing subculture that could help to bring about a
- generalized cyberpunk-esque world overlaps with the cyber-culture. These might
- include: virtual reality (read the sci.virtual-worlds FAQ for more info),
- nootropics (SmartDrugs and SmartDrinks), the rave subculture (read alt.rave),
- etc., etc., ad nauseum. For an idea of what I mean of cyberpunk relating to
- other subcultures, read MONDO 2000 (info. in this article).
-
-
-
- | 3. Required Reading
- |______________________
-
- Definitely, the "bible" of cybperunk is William Gibson's _Neuromancer_.
- The book garnered the Philip K Dick, Nebula, Hugo, and Australian Ditmar Awards.
- William Gibson and Bruce Sterling are generally regarded as the founders of cp,
- although people argue endlessly as to where the roots of cp lie.
- If you are new to cp, William Gibson and Bruce Sterling's books are the
- first things you should check out.
-
- Books By William Gibson:
-
- Neuromancer
- Count Zero
- Mona Lisa Overdrive
- Bruning Chrome (short story collection)
- The Difference Engine (w/ Bruce Sterling)
- Agrippa: A Book of the Dead (e-text poem)
- Virtual Light [forthcoming in late '93]
-
- [other short stories have appeared in magazines like Omni, Rolling Stone, SPIN,
- etc.]
-
- Books By Bruce Sterling:
-
- Mirrorshades (ed. - *the* collection of cp fiction by various authors)
- Islands in the Net
- Schismatrix
- The Artificial Kid
- Involution Ocean
- Crystal Express
- The Hacker Crackdown [new release from Bantam]
- Globalhead (short story collection) [through Mark V. Ziesing Books]
- Heavy Weather [what he is currently working on -- more later]
-
- [Sterling as also a frequent contributor to many magazines such as SF Eye,
- Locus, Interzone etc.]
-
- IMHO, Neuromancer is the first thing you should read, then Mirrorshades,
- and go from there.... ALT.CP.FAQ.(2/2) contains extensive lists of cp
- materials to keep you busy for a very long time - books, zines, movies and
- other stuff.
-
- For the literary side of CP I would suggest Larry McCaffery's casebook
- on postmodernism and cyberpunk, _Storming the Reality Studio_. It will give you
- a flavor of some of the different authors and also some good critical pieces.
-
-
- | 4. What is Cyberpunk Music?
- |______________________________
-
- Every once in a while, inevitably, this thread shows its face on
- alt.cp. There is *NO* set definition of Cyberpunk music, though certain
- categories of music are generally "preferred": punk, industrial, techno.
-
- A list of *suggested* musicians from the various categories is inclucded
- in part 2 of the faq (classical is not included, neither is country - sorry,
- they should be). This list will give you an idea of the groups considered to be
- in some part cyberpunk related.
-
-
- | 5. Cyberpunk authors on the Net
- |___________________________________
-
- 1 out of every 5 posts an alt.cp will read: :)
- "What is William Gibson's e-mail address?"
-
- Gibson most likely *does* have an e-mail address, but he does not
- prefer to use the Internet as a means of communication. Bruce Sterling lets us
- know in various articles and interviews that Gibson prefers to use his FAX
- machine. So, you can search for Gibson's address if you like, and if you find
- one, mail will most likely bounce, so give it up.
-
- Bruce Sterling and Tom Maddox have addresses, and are actually not that
- shy about making themselves known - for the sake of privacy I won't include
- their addresses here, but these two are actually not too difficult to locate.
-
- There are others out there too... Timothy Leary, bOING bOING and MONDO
- people, Neal Stephenson, D.K.Moran, Rudy Rucker, Ono Sendai ...
-
- Many interesting cyber-people have e-mail addresses. If you truly want
- to locate some of them, I suggest you get an account on the WELL. The WELL is
- where the cyber-crowd likes to hang....(info on the WELL is in this article)
-
-
- | 6. More info on-line
- |________________________
-
- Suggested related newsgroups:
- -----------------------------
- alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo Literary virtual reality in a cyberpunk hangout.
- alt.cyberpunk.movement Cybernizing the Universe.
- alt.cyberpunk.tech Cyberspace and Cyberpunk technology.
- alt.cyberspace Cyberspace and how it should work.
- alt.psychoactives Some Nootropics discussion here
- alt.rave Rave culture
- alt.society.cu-digest Postings about the Computer Underground. (Moderated)
- alt.zines a newsgroup devoted to discussion/reviewing zines
- comp.org.eff.news News from the Electronic Frontiers Foundation.
- comp.org.eff.talk Discussion of EFF goals, strategies, etc.
- comp.research.japan The nature of research in Japan. (Moderated)
- comp.risks Risks to the public from computers & users. (Moderated)
- comp.society The impact of technology on society. (Moderated)
- comp.society.development Computer technology in developing countries.
- comp.society.folklore Computer folklore & culture, past & present.
- comp.society.futures Events in technology affecting future computing.
- news.future The future technology of network news systems.
- rec.arts.anime Animation discussion group
- rec.arts.sf.misc Science fiction lovers' newsgroup.
- rec.arts.sf.movies Discussing SF motion pictures.
- rec.arts.sf.reviews Critiques of science fiction stories. (Moderated)
- rec.arts.sf.science Real and speculative aspects of SF science.
- rec.arts.sf.tv Discussing general television SF.
- rec.games.mud.* The MUD gaming hierarchy
- sci.crypt cryptography (protect your freedom of speech rights)
- sci.virtual-worlds Virtual worlds - soft/hardware & theory. (Moderated)
-
-
- FTP Sites:
- ----------
- cs.dal.ca 129.173.4.5
- Computer Underground, Nanotech, Postmodern Culture, Discography,
- Fractals, Computing Ethics, and much much more
- /pub/ (takes a looooong time to look through)
-
- ftp.eff.org 192.88.144.4
- Computer Underground, EFF, etc.
- (/pub/[EFF, SJG, journals, cspr, academic, cud])
-
- ftp.u.washington.edu [numbers will be changing - use name]
- Cyberpunk (/public/alt.cyberpunk)
- [I have put some interesting things along with the FAQ here]
- Virtual Reality (/public/virtual-worlds)
- Drugs (/public/alt.drugs)
-
- nic.funet.fi 128.214.6.100
- Cultural Stuff (/pub/culture/), Computer Underground (/pub/doc/phrack)
-
- nigel.msen.com xxx.xxx.x.xxx
- lots of cool and interesting stuff
-
-
- Mailing Lists (and e-zines)
- ---------------------------
- Computer Undergroud Digest
-
- Cyberspace Vanguard
- cn577@Cleveland.Freenet.edu
- - a brand new e-zine coming from TJ Goldstein and others
- - preview issue out now.. first issue ~Dec 15.
-
- Extropians
- extropians-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu
- -nanotechnology, cryonics, anarchocapatilist politics, technological
- extension of human intelligence and perception
- -serious discussion from an informative perspective
- -available on listserv as xtropy-l <sub xtropy-l>
-
- FutureCulture
- future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu
- -discussion of cyberpunk, vr, computer underground, raves, industrial
- culture, post po-mo, etc.
- -please specify realtime, digest, or FAQ only when subscribing
-
- Quanta
- quanta@andrew.cmu.edu
- - Science Fiction electronic 'zine edited by Daniel Appelquist
- - back issues available by anon ftp @ export.acs.cmu.edu (128.2.35.66)
- (/pub/quanta), and lth.se (130.235.16.3) in EUROPE (/Documents/Quanta)
-
- ScreamBaby
- - This is a new zine that has shown up recently. A rambling 1st issue
- and and more composed second issue. It has been appearing in alt.cp
- when released ..so stay tuned.
-
-
- A few BBSes [where some cp people hang]
- ---------------------------------------
- 212.988.5030 MindVox (telnetable: phantom.com)
- 415.332.6106 The Well (telnet: well.sf.ca.us)
- 415.472.5527 The Cyberden (public access unix - limited)
- 512.447.4449 The Illuminati BBS (Steve Jackson Games)
-
- Internet BBSes (not cp stuff, but thought I'd throw it in for fun)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------
- badboy.aue.com 192.136.108.18 bbs/new
- chatsubo.nersc.gov 128.55.160.162 bbs/new
- sparks 143.248.1.53 bbs/new
- kids 147.6.11.151 kids/new
- cimmaron 131.178.17.60 bbs/new
- greta's 128.214.87.1 bbs/new
- eagles nest seabass.st.usm.edu:131.95.127.2 bbs/bbs
- mars hotel jupiter.ee.msstate.edu:130.18.64.37
-
-
-
- | 7. Agrippa: A Book of the Dead
- |___________________________________
-
- William Gibson's new work is a poem entitled _Agrippa: A Book of the
- Dead_. In keeping with the forward-thinking theme of cp, it has been released
- not on paper, but on disk. The poem is ~5 pages in length says Tom Maddox.
- [For a supposed picture of the thing see a 1 page ad/review in recent SF eye.]
-
- There is one interesting aspect of this new book-on-disk: you read it
- once and it disappears. Now, there were two rumors about this: 1. a "virus"
- (the media's term) deletes the disk as you read it, or, 2. What you have
- previously read is encrypted and probably most likely un-decryptable (unless
- you have a couple Cray's lying around at your house).
- Basically, the idea is that you can only read the story once. The
- encryption idea is the correct one so you can read 'virus' in the following
- articles as 'uninformed writer' :-).
-
- If you would like a copy of the "book", the price ranges between $450
- and $7,500 (no, that's no typo). Gibson worked with Kevin Begos Jr. and
- artist Dennis Ashbaugh on creating this virtual-art, thus the art prices.
- Agrippa is much more than an autobiographical poem, as it includes work from the
- other artist involved.
-
- [The following on _Agrippa_ has been lifted without permission. Thanks to the
- original poster (chungkuo@ais.org)] :
-
- "_Agrippa (A Book of the Dead)_ (New York, Kevin Begos, 1992, edition of
- 350, $450; deluxe edition of 95, $1500) could be a conventional livre
- d'artiste. Inside a slick metallic box, it's evocative to a fault: there is
- a burnt-looking honeycomb board and a distressed newspaper framing a
- substantial bound volume with a singed cloth cover. The book contains a
- half dozen etchings by Dennis Ashbaugh (reproduced offset in the large
- edition)-- abstractions in rich sepia tones with plenty of textural and
- tonal range. But there are many twists. The abstractions convey not formal
- but scientific information, each representing a fragment of a human genome--
- an individualized biological blueprint. More immediately apparent, there is
- brassy prewar advertising imagery obscuring each image."
-
- "And then watch as the past gives way. These overprinted images are
- executed in a slow-dissolve variety of disappearing ink. Within a few hours
- of cracking the cover they vanish forever. Read on, and Ashbaugh's
- abstractions themselves give way to page after page of genome fragments as
- scientists know them-- the letters ACTG in varying combination, printed in
- mind-numbing four-column series. And deeper still, within a square recess
- cut into blank pages like some long-forgotten drug stash, is a standard
- computer disk (DOS and Macintosh version both available). This disk
- represents something of a small press coup, since it contains a new
- autobiographical novel by science fiction heavy William Gibson. In
- _Neuromancer_ and _Count Zero_, among other titles, Gibson has created an
- ominous anthro-electronic realm he calls "cyberspace." And that's just where
- _Agrippa_ is headed, for it has a self-destructing virus. Publisher Begos
- is confident the very great majority of readers can't prevent the text from
- fleeing forever into the electronic netherworld as soon as it scrolls by
- their screen. Farewell conventional books-- and conventional collecting,
- and reading, and remembering. Hello electronic communication."
-
- ---"Artists Book Beat," Nancy Princenthal, The Print Collectors
- Newsletter Vol XXIII, NO. 2 May-June 1992
-
- [Now here's the legitimate side of the story -- there is no "virus"
- nor does the thing delete itself. They say it uses RSA encryption.]
-
- "William Gibson's short story, "Agrippa," is designed to automatically
- and irrevocably encode itself after a viewer reads it on a computer screen.
- But because a sophisticated and virtually unbreakable encryption program,
- known as RSA, is used to do the code work, and because RSA, like most
- encryption devices, is closely guarded by the U.S. government, it's possible
- that "Agrippa" may not be sold overseas, said Kevin Begos, the publisher."
-
- [...] "On the one hand, exporting a product with RSA code built into it is
- clearly controlled by the government, which monitors use of the code with
- particular attention because it is considered one of the best codes ever
- devised. "We want to know where it went and who's got it and how it's being
- used," said Daniel Cook, a spokesman for the State Department's Office of
- Defense Trade Controls. "The intent is to keep it out of the hands of people
- who shouldn't have it."
-
- [...] "Cook suggested that the publisher could avoid the whole issue by
- simpling[sic] creating an export copy that automatically deletes - rather than
- encrypts - the story. But because most good hackers can easily restore deleted
- files, this would hardly be a satisfactory resolution. In any event, Cook said
- that because the program apparently doesn't contain a key to decrypt the file,
- "I don't see us getting a major heartburn over it."
-
- ---"Read Any Good Webs Lately? SIDEBAR: When Art Resembles National Security"
- Joshua Quittner (staff writer), Newsday, issue??
-
- [And yet more from Newsbytes on the RSA encryption scheme and more..thanks to
- alt.cp poster alex.sirota@umich.edu]
-
- "Agrippa: A Book of the Dead" by William Gibson and Dennis Ashbaugh,
- illustrates the intangible nature of memory as air exposure
- cause Agrippa's chemically treated etchings to change and a
- Macintosh disk with a story on it to hopelessly encrypt, once read.
- [...]
- On the subject of memory and how it mutates and changes, the focal
- point is the story on the disk is William Gibson's father, who
- died when he was six. The title of the work is not from King
- Agrippa, a figure from Roman history, but instead is the label on
- the 1919 family photo album containing photos of Gibson's father.
- [...]
- Agrippa comes in a case that resembles a laptop computer, with book
- inside surrounded by copper honey comb-shaped forms and cut-outs in
- the inside pages to contain a 3.5-inch floppy disk. The disk
- contains Gibson's story which is encrypted a scheme based on an RSA
- data encryption. The story can be read by a program which unencrypts
- the text on the fly and then self-destructs after one reading,
- leaving only the encrypted text on the disk. Once the reading of the
- text on the disk is started the story cannot be stopped, copied, or
- printed.
- [...]
- No paper form of Agrippa will be available. However, a fiber optic
- transmission of the Gibson story is planned for September of this
- year to sites worldwide, Begos said. While an IBM and compatible
- personal computer (PC) version of Agrippa was planned, Begos said
- the preponderance of orders have been for the Macintosh version. "We
- just haven't gotten to the PC version yet," Begos added.
- --- LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, U.S.A., 1992 JUL 13 (NB)
- (Linda Rohrbough/19920713/Press Contact: Kevin Begos, tel/fax 212-650-9324)
-
- However! (there's hope!) Gibson has reportedly said that he hopes
- (encourages) the book will be spread through the net. Supposedly it will be
- released into the net (uploaded only once, apparently). The problem is that
- the encryption or virus must be defeated.
-
- Apparently the only people on the net to have seen a copy of Agrippa
- are Tom Maddox (he quotes it in his sig) and Bruce Sterling. However, there was
- talk a while ago from Loyd Blankenship who was working to secure a copy. The
- latest rumor is that it will show up on MindVox.
-
-
- | 8. Sterling's latest releases
- |_________________________________
-
-
- It is called THE HACKER CRACKDOWN, and is a non-fiction account of
- Operation Sundevil (FBI's crackdown on hackers), the Steve Jackson Games case
- (in which SJG was raided bacause of the involvement of Loyd Blankenship - a
- contributor to the Legion of Doom, who was writing the RolePlaying Game book:
- GURPS CYBERPUNK, for the GURPS RPG system). He covers all sides of the story
- from the SS, to the computer security guys, to the hackers, to SJG.
-
- Sterling has also recently been involved with the EFF (the Electronic
- Fronteir Foundation - Mitch Kapor and John Perry Barlow's group that protects
- on-line rights). Check out his article "Gurps' Labor Lost: The Cyberpunk
- Bust" in the September 1991 EFFector. He has said that he is trying to back
- away from the whole scene though, saying: "I know more about hacking now than
- any sane person should have to know.
-
- The latest fiction release from Bruce is _Globalhead_ which is another
- new collection of his short stories. This book is being release from Mark
- Ziesing Books (PO Box 76, Shingletown, CA, 96088).
-
- The very latest news is a book called _Heavy Weather_ which he is
- working on currently. In bOING bOING #9 he says that this is "about hacking
- tornadoes in the early 21st century." No, I didn't make that up! Sounds like
- an interesting new twist if he wasn't joking.
-
-
- | 9. Gibson's Next Book: did Gibson quit?
- |___________________________________________
-
- Odds are we are not going to hear any more out of the characters from
- the Neuromancer, Count Zero, or Mona Lisa Overdrive.
-
- Titled _Virtual Light_ (tentatively ?), this book is purported to be a
- near-term story involving some elements of VR. The story is not based on the
- Sprawl series. It is atleast partly based in LA. Could it be that his recent
- short story "Skinner's Room" is of the same general setting? I don't know ...
- it is also based in California (San Francisco).
-
- Gibson has said:
-
- "I think LA slipped over the Fault into the 21st century about eight years ago,
- maybe even before that." [Science Fiction Studies, 1992, v19,p(4)]
-
- "The last thing I want is to be writing Cyberspace XVIIIL in a couple of years.
- The world doesn't need it and it would get really stale really quickly...The
- next novel I do is going to be something different...It's called VIRTUAL LIGHT
- and it's set in California in a future that is closer to now compared to my
- first three novel...It's about a skip tracer, this guy that goes out and hunts
- down people who default on their credit cards, debts and things...There are
- thousands of them in New York..." [FAD?]
-
-
-
- | 10. Gibson Goes to the Movies!
- |____________________________________
-
- [Well here is the best I have been able to assemble for you.]
- [And a thanks to TM for some updates.]
-
- Plans for a Neuromancer Movie?
- ------------------------------
- Apparently scripts for Neuromancer have made their way around
- different Hollywood studios. As of this writing, I have no information to
- confirm that Neuromancer is/will be made into a film, and there is no
- information to deny that it will be made. So, keep your hopes up!
-
- Information on this is hard to come by but here is a started timeline of
- Neuromancer the movie's lineage:
-
- November? '86: Gibson sells the film rights for Neuro to Cabana Boys
- Productions for $100,000.
- Cabana Boys (supposedly) brought in some good talent:
- - William Burroughs & Timothy Leary as creative consultants
- - Earl MacRauch (Buckaroo Banzai) as screenwriter
- - Douglas Trumbull (2001, Bladerunner) for FX
- - Andy Summers to write score
- - Peter Gabriel to play a lead (case? Armitage?)
-
- ?????????????: A couple screenwriters missing here I guess
-
- 10 April 1991: Amidst an emerging debate over the movie on alt.cp Tom
- Maddox had the following to say:
-
- "The first one attempted was by Earl MacRauch [...] and was by report
- unspeakably bad. There have been others, including a current one which
- I think Gibson said is by the would-be director of the film for
- Universal, but I don't remember his name"
-
- In June 1992 a new alt.cp movie discussion ensues and a very humorous story
- emerged about Cabana Boys and Neuro. It mentioned that rights reverted back to
- Gibson from Cabana Boys. Latest official word is that this is where the film
- rights remain with no current attempts being made on it.
-
-
- Gibson and ALIEN^3
- ------------------
- Gibson did in fact write *A* script for Alien^3, but it is not the one
- you see on the big screen. There are copies of it floating around. Try a SF
- convention and maybe you'll locate one. The script I have seen is titled
- "Alien III, by William Gibson, Revised first draft screenplay from a story by
- David Giler and Walter Hill". Ripley plays a very little part: she is in a
- coma in the early stages and then is jettisoned away. Hicks is the focus of
- this version along with some new people. Its a totally different story that
- Alien^3 you have seen. Gibson had the following to say about the script:
-
- "I didn't see there was very much that could be done with the alien - the beast,
- as they call it around the shop - so I tried to open out the background of the
- first two, exploring things about the human culture you wouldn't have expected
- but that didn't contradict what you already knew. You discover early on that
- the universe isn't run exclusively by the Company - there's a hard-bitten,
- Third World socialist power in space as well, this motley bunch of Latin Amer-
- icans and East Asians, who are all out there doing their own thing in big space
- stations painted inside like Mexican revolutionary murals. I was also fascin-
- ated by hints that the alien was someone's biological weapon, and I was explor-
- ing that."
-
- recent note:
-
- "His scenario was the first commissioned for the film _Aliens 3_, but
- several scripts later, there was almost nothing of local SF writer William
- Gibson's material left in the Hollywood blockbuster. Gibson's script,
- though, did circulate among Vancouver SF fans, including NO Fun
- songwriter and vocalist David M. The result is that NO Fun's Record
- Contract Signing Party at the Vancouver East Cultural Centre on Sunday
- (August 30) will include the band's rendition of "Vancouver's Own
- Cyberpunk Sci-Fi Superstar William Gibson's Aliens III". "It's much
- better than the one they put out on film," says M., who has Gibson's
- blessing for the performance and hopes the author will drop by if he is
- in town..." [Random Notes, The Georgia Straight, Aug 14-21 --thanks to Jay_
- Daunheimer@mindlink.bc.ca]
-
- It seems that WG gave permission to do this but wasn't able to attend this
- silly party (-:
- "Then Nina puts on a white body suit and takes a platic space gun and
- chase the guys alround the place. The guys have pantyhose on their heads
- to look like the Alien. And cool dracula teeth." [Jay_D]
-
-
- New Rose Hotel
- --------------
- Screenplay by Gibson himself. It was supposed to shoot in Tokyo with Ed
- Pressman producing and Kathryn Bigelow (Near Dark, The Loveless, Blue Steel)
- directing. Evidently Bigelo bowed out for "Her Own Reasons". Seems there have
- been untold numbers of changes on this thing too.
-
-
- Burning Chrome
- --------------
- I have often heard that BC is the most likely to make it to the screen.
- As of early 1990 Gibson is on the record as having been working on the screen-
- play for BC to be done by Carolco Pictures. At that time he didn't mention a
- director or producer.
-
- However [from FAD 1992], James Cameron (T2, Aliens) apparently has
- agreed to direct Burning Chrome. Yet, Gibson believes that Cameron's contract
- obliges him to "go somewere else and direct a regular-budget, non-special-
- effects movie and then he's supposed to come back and do Burning Chrome".
- Gibson has heard second-hand, apparently, that Cameron would like to shoot the
- movie in Detroit in the winter time. It remains to be seen if he is still sold
- on the film or not.
-
- Gibson has said, "It is easier than New Rose Hotel because its a lot less
- interior. New Rose Hotel is a doomed silent monologue that this man is cond-
- ucting with himself, locked in a coffin hotel outside a Tokyo airport, while in
- Burning Chrome people are crashing around, breaking into other people's comput-
- ers...doing things."
-
-
- Johnny Mnemonic
- ---------------
- This was optioned by painter Robert Longo's Pressure Pictures for pro-
- duction in 1990. Longo (director of "Arena Brains" short and music videos) and
- Victoria Hamburg are writing the screenplay. Hamburg will produce. Gibson and
- Longo collaborated earlier of "Dream Jumbo" for UCLA Center for the Performing
- Arts [anyone seen or heard about this?]. Hamburg called JM the Rosetta Stone of
- Gibson's late work [and she has also interviewed Gibson in _Interview_ but I
- have yet to locate it so I don't know if more details are there or if it was
- prior to her being involved in the film].
-
-
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