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- From: chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger)
- Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
- Organization: Lexington Public Access Unix. -KY- (606) 255-9121
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:59:08 GMT
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.065908.24936@lunatix.uucp>
- References: <1992Dec22.145426.19388@cc.gatech.edu> <1992Dec22.212743.1856@lunatix.uucp> <Bzp0sr.Dxu@ns1.nodak.edu>
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- In article <Bzp0sr.Dxu@ns1.nodak.edu> csmith@plains.NoDak.edu (Carl Smith) writes:
- >>Everyone lived for a long time without Caller ID, and now it's like
- >>it's a basic human right or something.
- >
- >Well, I don't think that caller id is a basic human right, but I have
- >been arguing in favor of it because of the people who seem to think that
- >it is some kind of basic human right to NOT have caller ID.
-
- Well, it's a basic human right to have privacy. I assume the entire purpose
- of this conversation is to determine the nuances and flaws of Caller ID.
- All I'm saying is that the phone sys. need not send the number out, as the
- *default*.. I just got into the conversation about the black box (smart
- cnid box) because I thought it was an interesting topic.
-
- >Well, I think you are very lucky then. I have dealt with quite a few
- >different telemarketing firms and on the repeat callers I have never
- >been able to get rid of them on the first call, no matter how much I
- >rant and rave. I ask that they do not call anymore and they say
-
- [transcript of MCI harassment deleted]
-
- Perhaps I am lucky. I don't know. As far as I'm concerned, this particular
- topic is pretty much talked-to-death.
-
- >They haven't called back since, in at least a year. But it took me a year
- >to get someone that would actually listen to me, rather than just hang up
- >when they figured out that I wasn't going to listen to the sales pitch.
- >
- >Of course, I have learned from the above, and would never again let a
- >similar situation drag out that long. Now I would call the phone company
- >and complain about it after the second or third call.
- >
- >BUT, if I had caller ID I could put them in a kill list after the first
- >call and never have to deal with it again. And furthermore, having caller
- >ID log the numbers would give me better evidence against the offending
- >repeat callers if I did decide to take action.
-
- You can also take many other steps to prevent your telephone number (and
- other information) from being distributed. Preventing them from getting
- your number in the first place is the best way to prevent them from calling
- you. Not taking steps after the fact. This entire topic is analogous to
- several problems America is having dealing with various things; a good
- example is unwanted pregnancies. Instead of teaching to abstain or to get
- an abortion when the time comes, why not teach people how to prevent
- fertilizing the egg in the first place?
-
- >In short, it is not as simple to get rid of telemarketers as you make it
- >out to be in your paragraph above.
-
- Maybe not for you.
-
- [phone ringing/relevance discussion deleted]
-
- [memory consideration calculations also deleted]
-
- >>>If you havn't noticed most every business in this country already has this
- >>>method in place. They're called receptionists. All I want at home is a
- >>>computer based receptionist.
- >>
- >>One big difference. Receptionists make notes of who calls. CNID doesn't.
- >>Why? Because CNID is not an AI box which converses with whoever calls.
- >
- >So, the receptionist can actually ask the name of the person on the
- >other end of the line, whereas CNID just gives you the phone the call
- >was placed from. MOST of the time they are identical anyway.
-
- There's no substitute for the real thing (ie, voice communications).
-
- >>>BTW you can laugh away but if/when I get this box built then if you try to call
- >>>me you'll get an answering machine and my phone won't ring at all. And that
- >>>my friend would make this "Big Brother" extremely happy ;-).
- >>
- >>I won't laugh when you build it. I wish you luck. However, I think that
- >>this little black box is just a way to avoid telemarketers.
-
- >"Just a way?" It is a very convenient way to avoid telemarketers, and other
- >undesireables.
-
- What's more convenient than dialing *67 before calling someone you don't
- want to have your number, and writing 'DO NOT SELL MY NAME/PHONE # TO
- OTHERS' on any mail you happen to send off?
-
-
- --
- Chad Helfenberger
- (chelf@lunatix.uucp)
-