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- From: Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher)
- Subject: Re: Couldn't control my own phone (Re: Caller ID block?)
- Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:09:32 GMT
- Message-ID: <18791@mindlink.bc.ca>
- Sender: news@deep.rsoft.bc.ca (Usenet)
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- >If your adversary is good enough to fake CNID, then CallTrace,
- >CallBlocking and ReturnCall are also compromised, because all this
- >information is supplied by the switch. Without implicit cooperation
- >from the LEC, you can't spoof CNID, only block it. (and some LEC's
- >don't even offer blocking)
-
- Aren't you paying attention? All the files on CNID flying around...How to
- emulate the signals, how to send it before the called party picks up, etc..
-
- All this combines into a way to FAKE CNID! The switch can be made to not send
- cnid OR if you garble the message it sends the CNID box will NOT record that
- a garbled message was received, it displays an 'incomplete data' message for
- 15 seconds then erases it. If you send a seemingly real signal after messing
- up the first one the box will receive and display it.
-
- On the other hand, information about the calling number is ALWAYS passed to
- the switches, even if you use ID block...The only thing is that if you block
- you ID a message saying 'PRIVATE' is sent instead of a number. Thusly the
- switch's records are going to have the real number, and when you dial the
- code for it to record that number it will be recording the correct number.
- The only way to get the switch to show a wrong number is by messing with it's
- programming (and no, most switches do NOT have a dial-in, you'd have to work
- for the telco).
-
- >That much is true, but the reason it would not have shown ID is because
- >the ID was either blocked or unavailable. If you were to receive ID,
- >the chances of it not matching what an official trace reports are very
- >small. (it's possible that a trace may report a DID extension behind a
- >PBX, where CNID would report the main incoming line, for example)
-
- The switch would only ever have the # of the trunk the call came in on... It
- would NOT have PBX extensions or the like, that was being discussed as
- something a subscriber could elect to send if they are on a ISDN line.
-
- If you want the callers # for legal reasons then the ONLY way to do it is to
- have the switch record it after the call, or have the phone company actively
- waiting to trace incoming lines.
-
- Granted it may be difficult to fake CNID but because the possibility exists
- it's not valid evidence.
-
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-
- Clayten_Hamacher@Mindlink.bc.ca Land of the rising snow.
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