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- From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
- Subject: Re: Spheres and Calculus [Re: Cyber (was Introduction was Eh?)]
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.172335.21047@data-io.com>
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- Organization: Data I/O Corporation
- References: <1992Dec22.204454.21849@crc.ricoh.com> <1992Dec23.193836.8586@data-io.com> <Bzqwvt.C29@chinet.chi.il.us>
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:23:35 GMT
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- In article <Bzqwvt.C29@chinet.chi.il.us> pat@chinet.chi.il.us (Patrick Louis Sugent) writes:
- >
- >Now that you bring up the subject of
- >'tracking' (more or less), I recall suffering some degree of culture
- >shock at taking classes with 'the rest of the students'. In particular,
- >I was shocked at how much lower the level of instruction was (especially
- >considering my assessment of the 'advanced' courses). Of course,
- >this comparison probably isn't quite fair since these were courses that
- >every student had to pass to graduate and were probably 'fixed' so that
- >even the 'lowest' student could pass them. Then again, maybe that
- >is part of my point.
-
- Liralen nods.
-
- > "While there was probably more 'diversity in learning abilities' in my high
- >school than yours (with your school's 'lows' likely being higher than my
- >school's 'lows'), I was curious if you experienced anything
- >similar. Of course, I welcome comments from others as well. :-)
-
- She grins. "Well, my second high school also had a lot of people bussed in
- from the SE side of San Diego because the racial mix was probably 90% white
- and the last 10% were Asian. The bussing brought in blacks and chicanos
- from the poor side of town; and, without the infrasturcture of the same
- kind of elementary and intermediate schools, they made the diversity pretty
- wide. Plus, some of the kids of the 'rich folk' *didn't* want to acchieve
- anything, so many of them were regular track because they wanted to be."
-
- "La Jolla High had Economics (which was the budgetting thing that you
- mentioned above) and U.S. Government, too; and it was predominently 'the
- rest of the students'. I do think there was *some* culture shock at the
- beginning, but I seem to have adapted pretty fast. Part of it was because
- I'd just changed schools, so I wasn't accepted with open arms by the kids
- that had done the local 'fast track' because they didn't know me the way
- they knew each other. The bussed kids, though, were already 'outcast' so
- it was easy for me to make friends with them. The classes were *so*
- slow that I even remember some classes when all we did was 'sit and be
- quiet' so I'd finish all my homework in my other classes *in* that class
- and have the afternoon free.
-
- "I have a feeling that the teacher of the U.S. Government class wasn't
- particularly interested in teaching anything. The one thing I noticed
- about the 'track' teachers is that they usually delighted in how quickly
- their students could learn and loved to push their capabilities. In 'the
- rest of the school' classes, they didn't have that kind of joy. And I
- think I acclimized pretty quickly. After one U.S. Government class I
- even drove home one guy who had drunk half a bottle of tequila for lunch.
- He was sick out the window of my VW Beetle while we were on the freeway.
-
- "I actually made a lot of friends in those regular track classes. I
- learned, pretty quick, that lots of the folks who were 'stuck' in them
- weren't stupid, they simply either hadn't had the background to support
- anything more advanced or they simply didn't excel in the things that
- schools graded on. So I had fun wandering the SE side of San Diego with a
- bunch of guys that were *all* about twice as big as me, all of which knew
- far more about cities and the lessons Jilara listed than I did. They
- taught me a lot about pain, prejudice, poverty, friendship, and courage
- along with some martial arts, gaming, and the rules of survival.
-
- "But, to get back to your original point," Liralen grins. "Yeah. Those
- classes were pretty awful, geared to the lowest common demoninator and
- dragging the best in the class back simply so that the worst could keep up."
-
- --
- Phyllis Rostykus | "... and how you feel can make it real | - _US_
- aka Liralen Li | Real as anything you've seen | Peter
- li@Data-IO.com | Get a life with this dreamer's dream." | Gabriel
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