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- From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
- Subject: Re: Quantum (and untutored Zen) and Beliefs (was Re: Absolutes)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.002038.20538@data-io.com>
- Sender: news@data-io.com (The News)
- Organization: Data I/O Corporation
- References: <1govt3INN2cl@gap.caltech.edu> <1992Dec17.183956.8992@data-io.com> <1992Dec22.185411.29489@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:20:38 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.185411.29489@zip.eecs.umich.edu> bshsiung@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Bernard Hsiung) writes:
- >If everybody is bored to tears by this discussion, I offer my apologies in
- >advance. This is my first posting to alt.callahans and I ought to try to
- >avoid offending people, after all...
-
- Liralen giggles. "It's O.K. Most of the folx involved in these
- dicussions aren't that easily offended..."
-
- >I just wanted to make a small observation about Schrodinger's Cat:
- >We may not know if the cat is alive or dead.
- >But, certainly, the _cat_ must have observed something!
-
- "True. Just as, if God exists, then God probably observes quite well
- wheither or not She exists. Thing is that we, who aren't the cat can't
- know. Though... if the assumption is that we *are* God, then we know that
- God exists and that is what we are. But for someone who doesn't have that
- assumption, they don't have that assurance or that kind of proof."
-
- "Personally, I can believe that God exists, because my basic belief is that
- God is all that is 'good'. Love, life, the top of a mountain, the ease
- and effort of running down a soccer field, courage in the face of fear,
- the arc of a dolphin playing with the interface between sea and sky, the
- scent of a flower, a Didi-spritely smile, the rush of white water in the
- Skykomish, and any touching of perfection are all God. So I 'know' that
- God exists, I don't know God's limits, because I believe there are none,
- especially not those of the human mind or imagination.
-
- "But I also accept and 'know' that for some people God doesn't exist
- because of their beliefs are that God doesn't exist. Just as I know that
- other people's concepts of who/what God is are very different than mine.
- I accept that those are right for them, even as I believe that my beliefs
- are right for me. Even when they contradict. Both contradicting
- beliefs exist and are valid at the same time for the people holding them.
-
- "Does that make any more sense?" she asks.
-
- --
- Phyllis Rostykus | "... and how you feel can make it real | - _US_
- aka Liralen Li | Real as anything you've seen | Peter
- li@Data-IO.com | Get a life with this dreamer's dream." | Gabriel
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