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- From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
- Newsgroups: alt.brother-jed
- Subject: Re: A paper I wrote for a speech class
- Message-ID: <1992Dec22.022237.16012@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 02:22:37 GMT
- References: <1992Dec16.100959@IASTATE.EDU> <237@spchsys.spchsys> <1992Dec21.221328.29662@rambo.atlanta.dg.com>
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- In article <1992Dec21.221328.29662@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes:
- >In article <237@spchsys.spchsys>, jjt@spchsys.spchsys (John J. Turley) writes:
- >|>
- >|> If I might ask about this here: Why is it that people who claim that they
- >|> somehow know what God wants always deliver the same poison? It's either
- >|> 'God hates this' or 'God must destroy that'. Then they tell you that
- >|> you must totally submit to their dogma, completely (with your mind, your
- >|> heart, and let's not forget your WALLET). They say that failure to comply
- >|> will result in eternal suffering. This is Jed's message.
- >
- > Regardless of what you feel about the messenger, the message is a very
- > serious one.
-
- Yes it is, following his commands to murder could send you to the electric
- chair.
-
- > Most of the Jed-haters hate being told that there are
- > divine laws which they do not like; for example, laws against fornication.
-
- To bad you don't know what fornication means. Before ramming the bible down
- our throats perhaps you should read a biblical commentary. The word
- fornication is derived from the name of the archs where prostitutes hung
- out. Saying not to visit prostitutes is not the same thing as saying not
- to have sex outside of marriage.
-
- > There are many scriptures that warn of the eternal danger of fornication,
- > much less the chances of AIDS, Herpes, etc. So you have a choice to
- > make regardless of how you feel about the messenger.
-
- Questions of the existance of God aside why should I take a messenger
- seriously who hasn't even taken the time to understand his own religion?
-
- > Some say, I will
- > not accept the message because I do not like the messenger. Okay, the
- > loss is yours and your excuse won't help you on judgment day.
-
- Your threats won't change reality.
-
- > Jed's dogma
- > is the Bible. Take the time to investigate its claims.
-
- I have, I've found neither evidence to prove or disprove gods existance.
- However I know that if there is a God and the bible is his word that Jed
- is 100% wrong, because he and those like him have twisted the meaning of
- the words.
-
- > You are right about intolerance. You are wrong about hate. You don't
- > understand or you are are merely throwing out a term to help you justify
- > your own rebellion to God. God loves you - yet he has a set of laws that
- > he will enforce. Would you expect the police not to enforce their laws
- > that have been written?
-
- I would hope police could read and understand the laws they must enforce.
-
- >Examine the Bible and repent (which means to
- > turn from your ways and surrender to God's ways).
-
- But if the bible is the word of God surrendering to what fundementalists
- demand would be to go against God. The Gospels are quite clear, if I was
- to become a Christian tomorrow I wouldn't be ashamed about having sex with
- another man, I would be ashamed that I had not given all my money to the
- poor.
-
-
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