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- From: vpoy@terapin.com (Vincent Poy)
- Newsgroups: alt.bbs
- Subject: Re: MUD for TBBS?
- References: <BzKDwq.BFA@magpie.nycenet.edu>
- Message-ID: <vpoy.2w2q@terapin.com>
- Date: 22 Dec 92 11:56:56 PST
- Organization: BBS
- Lines: 51
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- In article <BzKDwq.BFA@magpie.nycenet.edu>, manes@magpie.nycenet.edu (Steve
- Manes) writes:
- >ren_just (rjus@uonline.com) wrote:
- >: I challenged you on this before, and you came up with a less than truthful
- >: answer. Can you please tell us exactly how much it costs to configure a
- >: UNIX system with your "cheap" solutions. And then when you are done with
- >: that, calculate how much the learning curve is going to cost the place
- >: because they are a DOS house only and don't know UNIX. For all of the
- >: installations that I have done with TBBS, it comes out dollars ahead over
- >: what a UNIX installation would have cost.
- >
- >Not that I want to enter the TBBS vs. Unix wars but your last
- >statement is clearly untrue. Larry's negative attitude towards TBBS
- >(which, BTW, I happen to like very much, despite its limitations
- >for some applications) is mirrored by your own negative attitude
- >towards Unix so I suspect you haven't done much research into Unix
- >solutions and pricing. The cheapest way to go multiuser is with
- >Coherent ($99) and one of the PD source code BBS distributions
- >available at net archive sites. Bang... a multiuser BBS for less
- >than a hundred bucks. Want more lines? Add a dumb Digiboard. Want
- >database capabilities? Use Bourne shell scripts (included with
- >Coherent). It may lack dBASE file compatibility but it also allows
- >you to employ all the power of Unix (sed, awk, tr, spell, etc.) plus
- >any custom extensions you have laying around or have downloaded from
- >the internet... support for which, by the way, also comes included
- >with Coherent (uucp), which also means support for Usenet via other
- >PD programs like TIN, cnews, etc.
- >
- >Coherent is the cheapest and isn't a spec Unix but if you want a
- >full-blown Unix you can still go it cheaper than with TBBS. ESIX
- >discounts for $499 and USL is coming out with (or has recently
- >come out with) a cheap SVR4 Unix.
- >
- >There's no generic BBS user so there is no generic BBS application
- >and no generic operating system for it to run on. The point is that
- >if you WANT to run a Unix BBS it can be done cheaply and effectively.
- >For all its capabilities, TBBS is still an extremely pricey way to
- >go, which isn't unknown in the Unix world either. Commericial Unix
- >BBS programs like TeamMate and Coconet are, IMHO, carry obscene
- >price tags vs. value, especially given what one can do with a little
- >ingenuity on a stock Unix box.
- >--
- >Stephen Manes manes@magpie.nycenet.edu
- >Manes and Associates/Commontech-NoHo New York, NY, USA =o&>o
- CoHerent isn't that great since it doesn't offer TCP/IP yet and carries a $99
- price tag... Get Linux or 386BSD and you will have UN*X (Heard the word was
- copyrighted), and X-Windows and it's free by FTP... You can't beat that price!
- Anyways, What's a good BBS program that is in source form that can support
- multi-lines and lots of features plus allows users to use irc,ftp, e-mail,
- useNet News, UUCP, telnet?
-
-