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- From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc
- Subject: Re: In Job, Lucifer was proved right!
- Date: 3 Jan 1993 03:51:27 GMT
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- References: <parsons.725691151@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> <1hspfdINNl1o@im4u.cs.utexas.edu> <1992Dec30.221033.22612@zeus.franklin.edu> <1993Jan2.014956.6474@eskimo.com>
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- In article <1993Jan2.014956.6474@eskimo.com>, alpinist@eskimo.com (David Butler) writes:
- |>
- |> I can look at my past and see exactly what choices I made. I know with
- |> certainty what I have already done. Does that mean I did not have free
- |> will at the time? If the past can be fixed and free will still exist,
- |> then why would free will not exist just because the future is fixed?
- |> Or in other words, if I know what choices I already made and had free
- |> will at the time - couldn't the choices I will make be known and still
- |> be the result of free will?
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- I don't think that past and future are symmetrical here.
-
- When you look back at the past from the now, the past is fixed,
- because you know about it, but the present and future are not
- fixed.
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- If the future is fixed, on the other hand, everything you are
- going to experience is also fixed *including* the experience of
- recalling the past or the present. In this sense, fixing the
- future fixes our experience of the past and present also.
-
- jon.
-