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- From: joeb@arden.linet.org (Joe Beiter)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: The Bible As A Rorschach
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.020043.25959@arden.linet.org>
- Date: 31 Dec 92 02:00:43 GMT
- References: <9211241258.AA21354@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> <1992Dec28.230529.19778@arden.linet.org> <12220@kesson.ed.ac.uk>
- Organization: The Courts of Chaos
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- >Obviously not. The men who broke into my flat a year ago also had a
- >sense of what was acceptable and what was not which differed strongly
- >from mine. I don't call them good, though. I call them thieves, and
- >in the same way I call the god of the Bible a sadist and a murderer.
-
- Well multiply that sense of insight into the evil of man by about infinity
- times two. God looks into the raw 'heart' of man not only the actions.
- But why are we talking about something you don't even think is there?
-
- >This is exactly how Hitler and Stalin got their power and kept it for
- etc...
- >Big Brother never punishes innocent people. Big Brother is always right.
-
- Yea well they were men now weren't they.
-
- >This is an extremely dangerous way of thinking.
-
- I agree. Stalin may have had good intentions but I wouldn't suggest
- following someone like Hitler.
-
- >>For your assumption of contradiction to hold water you would have to know
- >>both God and the people that were killed intimately.
- >
- >Not one of the victims of the Holocaust has been an acquaintance of mine.
- >I reckon I should feel comfortable with their deaths.
-
- Hitler had no right to do what he did. Hitler is not God.
-
- >>and then proceed to be crucified, boiled in oil, stoned, sawn in half etc...
- >>knowing full well the lie they were dying for.
- >
- >What about the priests of Baal whom one of the prophets of Yahweh
- >slaughtered, in 1 Kings 17 (I think)? Did they die for a lie, or
- >maybe Baal is The One and Only Lord after all?
-
- Its in 18. Isreal was starting to abandon the Lord and go over to a false
- god Baal. Jezebel (Ahab's babe) was killing the prophets of God in the name
- of Baal. That was God's way of showing who was the Real God. They died
- for a lie.
-
- >What about the people who were tortured to death by the Inquisition
- >for maintaining the opinion that the Bible is a book of lies and that
- >Christianity is drivel?
-
- You're confusing political powers with people who try to follow Jesus and
- the gospel.
-
- >Or they did confess that they had been talking nonsense, but were
- >executed none the less. Or they had managed to brainwash themselves
- >and one another into believing the strange tale they had come up with.
- >Or they had simply lost their wits, all of them. Or one of feenty-feen
- >other explanations, none of which is more implausible than what they are
- >claimed to have claimed.
-
- yea right.
-
- >
- >>hint: Start claiming all the apostles really didn't get martyred and IT was
- >> all a lie too!
- >
- >This is certainly a claim which is worth considering. I'll sooner
- >believe that it was all a lie than that what the Gospels say about
- >Jesus of Nazareth is anything other than a lie.
-
- A lie of that extent would have been uncovered and squashed during that time
- and would not have lived. How long does a lie like that live now-a-days?
- (ie: Nixon/Watergate, Regan/contras, Quayle/intelligence, Swaggart/lust etc..)
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