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- From: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Re: iq<->religion connection
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.155827.13285@spectrum.xerox.com>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 15:58:27 GMT
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- In article AA22699@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com, I3150101@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
-
- > I think this is going to be another discussion of religion and true religion.
- > Like the many we had about christianity and true christianity. To cut it short,
- > the common understanding of religion includes more than the mystical state you
- > refer to.
- > And if the dogmas and contradictions are superficial, why do they exist? Don't
- > they serve a purpose? Like for instance telling who is one of us and who is
- > one of them?
-
- Dogma, unfortunately, is a normal human phenomenon. To paraphrase Kafka:
- "Every revolution leaves behind it the slime of bureaucracy." Religions
- have far from exclusive rights to its use. It is as easy to be dogmatically
- against a religion as it is to be for one, like the ex USSR. Dogma is a
- very cheap substitute for using your gourd.
-
- >
- > >To deny the importance of emotion or the need for self-transcendence can cause
- > >to lead a very shallow existence, indeed. You may be able to use logic to win o
- > >the debating team, but it hardly helps one to woo women. I can tell you what I
- > >prefer to do! :-)
- >
- > IMO, people are seeking transcendence because they are not content with their
- > lives. I wonder if there are no other tools of addressing that problem. And
- > my impression of religion is that it aids people in feeling miserably in order
- > to keep them hooked.
-
- IMO, content == complacent, so being content for me is a problem. Self-transcendence
- is merely widening your own horizons, not, as some folks might assume, some form
- of "escape." I have never met anyone that truly _knows_ for a fact that
- existence as they perceive it is all there is. So why not poke around a little?
-
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