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- From: mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.020303.21599@jcnpc.cmhnet.org>
- Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
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- References: <1992Dec28.112747.22088@prime.mdata.fi>
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:03:03 GMT
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- Iikka Paavolainen (iikkap@mits.mdata.fi) wrote:
-
- [hey Iikka, notice that I put something here to indicate that lines have been
- cut, useful technique, no?]
-
- : >>If you don't find my experiences significant, why don't you have some exper
- ien-
- : >>ces for yourself. This isn't a thesis or anything, just a sincere observati
- on.
- : >>Anybody saying that my 'thesis' is not substatiated or sounds stupid, can s
- ay
- : >>what they want, because I don't have a thesis.
- : >>So what if you prove that intelligence has no effect on atheism? Easy?
- : >
- : >Well, my experiences happen not to match yours, which is what caused
- : >me to question this position.
- :
- : You are evading the question again.
-
- No, last time I evaded the question. But again, what is the question?
-
- :
- : >
- : >Do you always get so angry when someone happens to disagree with you?
- :
- : I never get angry. Seems you must be losing some sleep because of this matter
- .
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- We're talking to Mr. Spock!!! Granted, a brain damaged Mr. Spock, but Mr.
- Spock none-the-less.
-
- :
- : >>So why on earth are you demanding a definition of intelligence, when you ar
- e
- : >>giving one yourself?
- : >
- : >*I* am demanding the definition, not Mike.
- :
- : That doesn't change the point. Why don't you bash Mike because he doesn't
- : happen to agree with you in everything.
-
- Because I haven't said anything patently stupid yet.
-
- :
- : >>And? How true have you found the christians beliefs to be? Did you not use
- : >>intelligence to deduce your conclusion?
- : >>I am just getting more and more support for the original idea.
- : >
- : >I don't think they are true at all.
- : >
- : >I am getting more support from you for *my* original idea, which is
- : >that this supposed correlation between intelligence and lack of
- : >religious belief boils down to an ad hominem attack on those you
- : >disagree with. I wouldn't stand for it from a Christian, and I won't
- : >stand for it from you.
- :
- : Have you just learnt the words 'ad hominem' or why are you using it so vainly
- ?
- : You seem to have a very hard time answering the questions.
-
- Your questions are designed to deflect discussion from your original thesis,
- which you claim to be able to substantiate and which you can't. We stay
- focused on the original question.
-
- :
- : >
- : >In my original post, I merely voiced concern over the potential ad
- : >hominem nature this argument can take. For this I get flamed by you?
- :
- : Tell me how I flamed you, first. BS describes your replies.
- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
-
- Another example of a logical, non-emotional, non-inflamatory response.
-
- :
- : >
- : >I think you are confusing criticism of your *conclusions* with
- : >criticism of your *methodology*. Please, if you are going to make
- : >such sweeping generalizations in the future, make sure you don't
- : >use such sloppy methodology.
- :
- : I'm sorry, but I won't let people like you stop rational conversation.
-
- No, you do just fine all by yourself.
-
- :
- : >
- : >SD
- :
- : Look up at the post, and see what you wrote. Consider the starting point of
- : this thread and look where this has degenerated. You seem to have slight
- : attitude problems. Everybody would be better off if you didn't post anymore.
- : If you do, trim the messages.
-
- And everyone would be better off ignoring your waste of bandwidth. Please
- don't "trim" the meat of the messages.
-
- :
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- Mike McAngus | As if I needed Another time consuming hobby.
- (mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org) |
- The Truth is still the Truth | This Post exploits illiterates.
- Even if you choose to ignore it. |
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