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- From: mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.014330.21517@jcnpc.cmhnet.org>
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- References: <1992Dec28.071210.1149@nmsu.edu>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:43:30 GMT
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- Stephen Doe (sdoe@nmsu.edu) wrote:
- : In article <1992Dec19.224717.1993@prime.mdata.fi> iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka
- Paavolainen) writes:
- : >Am I seeing wrongly, or is there a connection between one's IQ and one's
- : >religiousness? Of all people I know, I know only about 8 exceptionally smart
- : >people (IQ>125), and all of them happen to be atheists. On the contrary, the
-
- : >dumbest people I've seen (eg. unable to use a remote control) are the most
- : >religious. Observing other atheists that I don't know (from this group for
- : >example) leads me to make a conclusion that on the average, atheists have a
- : >much better sense of logic (and thus usually have a higher IQ) and think muc
- h
- : >more clearly than religious people. From my own experiences, I can say that
- : >freeing oneself from the grasp of religion requires a certain level of logic
- al
- : >thinking. Coincidentally, all these 8 people are mathematically gifted.
- : >When I speak of atheism here, I mean it to be a lack of belief in any god or
- : >superstition.
- : >Opinions?
- : >
- : >BTW, if this offended you, go to a church instead of coming to alt.atheism.
- : >--
- : > __/|_ , ,--------------------------------------------------------------,
- : >/o \/:--| Iikka Paavolainen / iikkap@mits.mdata.fi, in Espoo, Finland |
- : >\__~__/\:--| "I won't have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent." |
- : > ` ` `--------------------------------------------------------------'
- :
- : Ah, here's the first post in the series. Well, old bean, in this
- : first post you didn't:
- :
- : tell us the size of your sample (later you say it's 1000)
- :
- : tell us how you prevented any bias from creeping into your
- : observations (oh, that's right, you're not biased at all. Yeah,
- : right, give me a break)
- :
- : tell us how the sample was selected
- :
- : tell us how you determined degree of religiousness, and IQ, for the
- : 1000 person sample you later refer to
- :
- : etc.
-
- You also proved that Iikka referred to 8 friends. A point he kept denying!!!
-
- :
- : Do you see what I am getting at now?
- :
- : At most, tentative observations like this should prompt us to see if
- : such a correlation exists. In and of itself, this just doesn't cut it
- : as a "proof" of your correlation, not without a lot more to back it
- : up. This isn't a bedtime story, you can't just make sweeping
- : generalizations on the basis of such flimsy evidence. Ah, but I
- : forget, my emotional commitment to decent intellectual standards and
- : fairness have blinded me to the Gospel as propounded by Iikka
- : Paavolainen.
- :
- : It still seems to me that this correlation is just being used as a
- : convenient device to dismiss theists with the wave of a hand. Ad
- : hominem all the way.
- :
- : SD
- --
- Mike McAngus | As if I needed Another time consuming hobby.
- (mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org) |
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