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- From: iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec29.235318.19058@prime.mdata.fi>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 23:53:18 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec29.170030.7556@hsr.no> onar@hsr.no (Onar Aam) writes:
- >
- >>What if we lift the limit to 160?
- >>
- >
- >Only 1 pr 2000 or so has an IQ greater than 160. I think I know only one who
- >exceeds this limit. (He is a christian) But when one gets as high as that one
- >cannot rely on most tests. I personally bust the charts (>170) of many
- >intelligence tests but I think my true intelligence is reflected by the test I
- >had at the age of 6 which yielded an intelligence of 152. But I don't quite see
- >your point in raising the limit. It seems like you have not dealt very much with
- >axioms (unquestion-ed/able assumptions). It is possible to build a completely
- >rational and coherent mental universe on axioms which necessarily does not
- >coincide with the common awareness of "reality". This allows for severely
- >intelligent people to act out religious, often fundamentalistic beliefs. In fact,
- >one of the most intelligent (logically) people I know is also one of the most
- >irrational I know.
-
- So you're saying that they just go with what the preachers and Bible call
- axioms? And thus, they won't have anything to think about. What about when
- they read the Bible or visit sermons? They consider everything to be axioms
- or sel-explanatory?
-
- >
- >
- >>>except one who is an atheist.
- >>>
- >>>Religion is often connected to feelings. Feelings are unintelligent and if you
- >>>yourself are not very intelligent, your feelings will make sense and seem
- >>>coherent. How often haven't you heard Christians say "Listen to your heart"? Such
- >>>a statement shows that they allow their feelings to rule their world. This is
- >>>harder for someone whose rationale exceeds her feelings. She will be more able to
- >>>cut through and behave rationally despite of her feelings. She will also be able
- >>>to see that her feelings are *not* coherent and therefore is less likely to
- >>>become religious.
- >>
- >>Yes, when they are right-brain dominant, their feelings govern more.
- >>In one way right-brain intelligence is intelligence, that's why I specified
- >>that it has to be logical (left-brain) intelligence that causes atheism.
- >
- >
- >Onar.
- >
- >
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