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- From: joeb@arden.linet.org (Joe Beiter)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: The Bible As A Rorschach
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.230529.19778@arden.linet.org>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 23:05:29 GMT
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- In article <9211241258.AA21354@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> I3150101@DBSTU1.RZ.TU-BS.DE (Benedikt Rosenau) writes:
- >
- >Fundis appear to work on the following premises: God is Good and the OT (plus
- >the NT for christians) is the word of god. However, when one actually reads the
- >OT (instead of thinking one knows the content), one finds a lot of disturbing
- >stories of genocide, mass murder, killing of almost every living being,
- >slavery, and mutilation ordered or directly done by god. Looks like the
- >premises given above contradict, doesn't it?
- >Interestingly, a Fundi came up with an excuse like: Genocide, when ordered by
- >god, is ok.
-
- Justice, when it is Just, is OK. You appear to assume God has your sense
- of what is acceptable and what is not. Did you actually know the people God
- killed? How do you know they didn't deserve death in the eyes of God?
- For your assumption of contradiction to hold water you would have to know
- both God and the people that were killed intimately.
-
-
- >>Actually not, because his biographers - or inventors - could have easily
- >>adjusted the biography to fit the prophecies.
-
- and then proceed to be crucified, boiled in oil, stoned, sawn in half etc...
- knowing full well the lie they were dying for. The fact is, they either
- witnessed the fullfilling of these prophecies and deemed it worth dying for
- or they fudged and knew the real truth.
-
- hint: Start claiming all the apostles really didn't get martyred and IT was
- all a lie too!
-
- >Further, the authors of the NT could not adjust the biography because the
- >prophecies about a messiah are too, er, well defined. Jesus postponed them,
- >but even when one buys into Christianity, to say that he *has fulfilled them*
- >is counterfactual.
-
- in what way?
-
- >
- >And, assuming that the bible is a Rorschach, then I maintain the claim that the
- >god who inspired it is a lousy communicator.
-
- I wasn't aware that givers of the Rorschach were supposed to communicate what
- the viewer was to see.
-
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