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- From: sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe)
- Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.074445.5021@nmsu.edu>
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- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:44:45 GMT
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- In article <BzMCF5.12C.1@cs.cmu.edu> rhuss+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Robert Huss) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec19.224717.1993@prime.mdata.fi>, iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
- >|> Am I seeing wrongly, or is there a connection between one's IQ and one's
- >|> religiousness? Of all people I know, I know only about 8 exceptionally smart
- >|> people (IQ>125), and all of them happen to be atheists. On the contrary, the
- >|> dumbest people I've seen (eg. unable to use a remote control) are the most
- >|> religious. Observing other atheists that I don't know (from this group for
- >|> example) leads me to make a conclusion that on the average, atheists have a
- >|> much better sense of logic (and thus usually have a higher IQ) and think much
- >|> more clearly than religious people. From my own experiences, I can say that
- >|> freeing oneself from the grasp of religion requires a certain level of logical
- >|> thinking. Coincidentally, all these 8 people are mathematically gifted.
- >|> When I speak of atheism here, I mean it to be a lack of belief in any god or
- >|> superstition.
- >|> Opinions?
- >|>
- >|> BTW, if this offended you, go to a church instead of coming to alt.atheism.
- >|> --
- >|> __/|_ , ,--------------------------------------------------------------,
- >|> /o \/:--| Iikka Paavolainen / iikkap@mits.mdata.fi, in Espoo, Finland |
- >|> \__~__/\:--| "I won't have a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent." |
- >|> ` ` `--------------------------------------------------------------'
- >
- >
- > It is safe to assume that the more intelligent people will have
- >thought about their beliefs more, and will probably reject many fundementalist
- >concepts. Of my more intelligent friends, I would say they are certainly
- >more tolerant of other beliefs, and more likely to be liberally religious,
- >if not atheist. Clear thinking is great, and we all like to be clear thinking
- >and have clear thinking friends, but clear thinking doesn't mean you will
- >become an athiest. I have intelligent friends who have questioned the faith
- >that they were brought up in, but have still come to terms with some form
- >of religion, and are definitely not atheists. I would say that it is highly
- >unlikely that you will become an atheist if you were raised in a certain
- >religion, and are not very intelligent. Without intelligence it is difficult
- >to change any views that you were socialized towards.
- > I think it is very dangerous to start believing that any group
- >you belong to is inherently supperior. This has been believed time and
- >time again, and has been wrong time and time again. It is likely that we
- >atheists tend to have friends who are atheists. Therefore, the people
- >we know are both intelligent and atheist. This is not a very good
- >reference for statistics.
- > IMHO, intelligence will lead you to clear thinking, which may lead
- >you to atheism, but I think clear thinking will also lead you to tolerance.
- >Discussions like this are just breeding grounds for missunderstanding and
- >anger. Especially comments like your last sentence.
- >
- >Bob Huss.
-
- Well, according to Iikka, the mere fact that we have this viewpoint
- means that we don't think straight like him. . .
-
- SD
-